Is Vitaly Underated - Page 4

chitownfightfan · 11-22-2012, 08:48 PM

Had Vitali never QUIT against Byrd, and been wrongly treated for his back trouble, he'd have a MUCH better resume, and likely have Toney, Rahman, Ruiz, Holyfield, and Valuev on his resume. All by KO of course.

Add Haye to that, and if that don't make him a top 10 ATG, I don't know what does.

But, as it stands, we can only rank him 10-20 or just outside those positions. Unlike Wlad, he's lacking 4-8 big fights in his prime, and he's got MAYBE another 2 in him if he decides to fight on.

I sure wish Mitchell woulda won that fight last w/e. He and Haye might have cemented Vitali inside the top 10 for me.

JAB5239 · 11-22-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownfightfan

Had Vitali never QUIT against Byrd, and been wrongly treated for his back trouble, he'd have a MUCH better resume, and likely have Toney, Rahman, Ruiz, Holyfield, and Valuev on his resume. All by KO of course.

Add Haye to that, and if that don't make him a top 10 ATG, I don't know what does.

But, as it stands, we can only rank him 10-20 or just outside those positions. Unlike Wlad, he's lacking 4-8 big fights in his prime, and he's got MAYBE another 2 in him if he decides to fight on.

I sure wish Mitchell woulda won that fight last w/e. He and Haye might have cemented Vitali inside the top 10 for me.

Vits might rank 25th for me. Had he chosen to fight through his injuries he most likely takes a few losses from the list you provided. The fact remains though that his resume is very thin and prevents him from being considered with the elite of all time.

JeanPaulValley · 11-22-2012, 10:32 PM

He's a good champion in a weak era. Not everyone has to be ranked as an ATG.
Sometimes ya gotta except that you were just very good and not great.
Nothing wrong with that.

thanosone · 11-22-2012, 11:32 PM

Lewis and him are the two greatest heavies ever. H2H only Lewis has a chance.

dyna · 11-23-2012, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by locard

No, just no. Even current old ass, deteriorating Vitali would give Wlad his toughest fight in 8 years.

Prime Vitali ¨Sanders¨ him

I doubt Vitali has the punching power to "Sanders" him, actually I'm sure he won't be able to finish Wlad inside 2 rounds.

Louis Monaco took him already 3 rounds.

BoxingFan2010 · 11-23-2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Well, any fighter is going to end up underrated by his detractors and overrated by his diehard fans. That said, Vitali is so divisive he ends up having an inordinate amount of diehard fans and an inordinate amount of detractors. Therefore, he is both extremely underrated and extremely overrated.

Going through this thread already, this is the best post yet!

BoxingFan2010 · 11-23-2012, 06:07 AM

Vitali was into kickboxing and a 6 time champion, If he did not do that and went straight to
boxing there would be no injuries and he would have kicked ass alot more in boxing. Facts for
you to consider.

box4life11 · 11-23-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KidDynamite

TKO6, quitter, bitchko, face vag, PED abuser

Shut your racist ass up I know it hurts

Squire · 11-23-2012, 07:22 AM

Vitali seems to be overrated by some, underrated but many. In truth I would say it's difficult to place him because he didn't have the fights in his prime that would have defined his level. What I think is undeniable is that his 11 fight unbeaten come back as a past prime fighter (who was out of boxing for 4 years) shows that he was a lot more in his prime than his resume suggests

11-22-2012, 08:48 PM	#46
chitownfightfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8,611 vCash: 0	Re: Is Vitaly Underated Had Vitali never QUIT against Byrd, and been wrongly treated for his back trouble, he'd have a MUCH better resume, and likely have Toney, Rahman, Ruiz, Holyfield, and Valuev on his resume. All by KO of course. Add Haye to that, and if that don't make him a top 10 ATG, I don't know what does. But, as it stands, we can only rank him 10-20 or just outside those positions. Unlike Wlad, he's lacking 4-8 big fights in his prime, and he's got MAYBE another 2 in him if he decides to fight on. I sure wish Mitchell woulda won that fight last w/e. He and Haye might have cemented Vitali inside the top 10 for me.
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JeanPaulValley LUMMOX LEWIS=BUM ESB Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: Crescent Heights,Hell Posts: 2,470 vCash: 438	Re: Is Vitaly Underated He's a good champion in a weak era. Not everyone has to be ranked as an ATG. Sometimes ya gotta except that you were just very good and not great. Nothing wrong with that.
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thanosone I Am Eternal ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In The Zone Posts: 4,883 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Vitaly Underated Lewis and him are the two greatest heavies ever. H2H only Lewis has a chance.
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BoxingFan2010 Heavyweight Champion ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Calgary.Alberta.Canada Posts: 3,071 vCash: 2217	Re: Is Vitaly Underated Vitali was into kickboxing and a 6 time champion, If he did not do that and went straight to boxing there would be no injuries and he would have kicked ass alot more in boxing. Facts for you to consider.
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11-23-2012, 07:22 AM	#54
Squire Never Truly Lost East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 10,487 vCash: 7213	Re: Is Vitaly Underated Vitali seems to be overrated by some, underrated but many. In truth I would say it's difficult to place him because he didn't have the fights in his prime that would have defined his level. What I think is undeniable is that his 11 fight unbeaten come back as a past prime fighter (who was out of boxing for 4 years) shows that he was a lot more in his prime than his resume suggests
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