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Old 11-22-2012, 08:48 PM   #46
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Had Vitali never QUIT against Byrd, and been wrongly treated for his back trouble, he'd have a MUCH better resume, and likely have Toney, Rahman, Ruiz, Holyfield, and Valuev on his resume. All by KO of course.

Add Haye to that, and if that don't make him a top 10 ATG, I don't know what does.

But, as it stands, we can only rank him 10-20 or just outside those positions. Unlike Wlad, he's lacking 4-8 big fights in his prime, and he's got MAYBE another 2 in him if he decides to fight on.

I sure wish Mitchell woulda won that fight last w/e. He and Haye might have cemented Vitali inside the top 10 for me.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:59 PM   #47
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Had Vitali never QUIT against Byrd, and been wrongly treated for his back trouble, he'd have a MUCH better resume, and likely have Toney, Rahman, Ruiz, Holyfield, and Valuev on his resume. All by KO of course.

Add Haye to that, and if that don't make him a top 10 ATG, I don't know what does.

But, as it stands, we can only rank him 10-20 or just outside those positions. Unlike Wlad, he's lacking 4-8 big fights in his prime, and he's got MAYBE another 2 in him if he decides to fight on.

I sure wish Mitchell woulda won that fight last w/e. He and Haye might have cemented Vitali inside the top 10 for me.
Vits might rank 25th for me. Had he chosen to fight through his injuries he most likely takes a few losses from the list you provided. The fact remains though that his resume is very thin and prevents him from being considered with the elite of all time.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:32 PM   #48
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He's a good champion in a weak era. Not everyone has to be ranked as an ATG.
Sometimes ya gotta except that you were just very good and not great.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:32 PM   #49
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Lewis and him are the two greatest heavies ever. H2H only Lewis has a chance.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:22 AM   #50
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No, just no. Even current old ass, deteriorating Vitali would give Wlad his toughest fight in 8 years.

Prime Vitali ¨Sanders¨ him
I doubt Vitali has the punching power to "Sanders" him, actually I'm sure he won't be able to finish Wlad inside 2 rounds.

Louis Monaco took him already 3 rounds.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:00 AM   #51
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Well, any fighter is going to end up underrated by his detractors and overrated by his diehard fans. That said, Vitali is so divisive he ends up having an inordinate amount of diehard fans and an inordinate amount of detractors. Therefore, he is both extremely underrated and extremely overrated.
Going through this thread already, this is the best post yet!
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:07 AM   #52
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Vitali was into kickboxing and a 6 time champion, If he did not do that and went straight to
boxing there would be no injuries and he would have kicked ass alot more in boxing. Facts for
you to consider.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:10 AM   #53
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:22 AM   #54
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Vitali seems to be overrated by some, underrated but many. In truth I would say it's difficult to place him because he didn't have the fights in his prime that would have defined his level. What I think is undeniable is that his 11 fight unbeaten come back as a past prime fighter (who was out of boxing for 4 years) shows that he was a lot more in his prime than his resume suggests
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