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Old 11-22-2012, 11:54 AM   #1
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Default Slip Jab to Slip cross hows this done should it ever be done?

Like say you jab by slipping one way and then you follow that jab with a cross and also slip the other way with the cross.

It feels like my head is doing something wrong / dangerous, its suddenly going horizontally across from the original slip position to the other slip position.

It also feels dangerous to put my head back up to its original position before I slip in the other way after the first slip.

Hows this done properly?

How do you slip jab then slip cross in combo?
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: Slip Jab to Slip cross hows this done should it ever be done?

1. Practice like hell
2. Be quick and solid with your technique
3. Have awesome timing

Emphasis on 1.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:45 AM   #3
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Like say you jab by slipping one way and then you follow that jab with a cross and also slip the other way with the cross.

It feels like my head is doing something wrong / dangerous, its suddenly going horizontally across from the original slip position to the other slip position.

It also feels dangerous to put my head back up to its original position before I slip in the other way after the first slip.

Hows this done properly?

How do you slip jab then slip cross in combo?
1) Assess your opponent by feinting / throwing single jabs. Try and get an idea of how he is trying to counter you i.e. is he is looking to throw an over hand right over your jab etc. If he is catching your jab with his back hand then he probably won't be able to generate too much power with his back hand (which is the shot you need to worry about - assuming you both have the same stance).

2) Don't be predictable, change your rhythm / feint before committing (lots of variety in your feints).

3) When you do commit, keep your chin tucked and use your shoulders for extra protection (i.e turn your shots over and raise your shoulder to protect your chin more). Keep low and when you slip across to throw your right and move your head down wards as well as across to the left as you slip.

4) Speed. Drive your feet into position and ensure your slip just enough to avoid his counters. If you slip too far it will take you longer to throw your combo and give him the opportunity to counter and it will affect your balance.

It can be dangerous, but then again every shot you throw can be dangerous.

For now, I would try and ensure my jab actually "lands" first before attempting this. If you step in with a stiff jab to the chest / shoulder area you will affect his balance and thus reduce the chances of him countering you and if he does is power will not be too much of a concern.

Also, this combo is all about timing. I teach our lads to be "first and third" when explaining things like this. You be first with your jab, and you want you opponent to counter i.e. he goes (second). And then you counter with your right hand (third). You are ready for the counter so it's just a matter of timing when to throw and move your head. I feel this help beginners understand the importance of timing rather than simply executing a combo that is practiced on the pads. And because you are expecting the counter things seem less daunting for a beginner because things are going to plan.
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Depends which way ur slipping. To the outside of the punch, or the inside?

If u slip to the inside of the jab, moving ur head left presuming both of u are orthodox, and then slip ur head to the right, thereby slipping to the inside of the opponent's right hand, then ur pretty safe.

If u slip the jab to the outside, head to the right, and then try to slip the right hand to the left, you are courting disaster!!! It's a move so many trainers use with the pads because its so convenient, but in practice, very very risky.

Safest bet is to slip the jab to the outside, then slip the right to the inside. In other words, slip to the right, and slip again to the right, or slide with it. Then slip to the left for the left hook (to the inside). At each point, you are ready to counter.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:41 AM   #5
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1) Assess your opponent by feinting / throwing single jabs. Try and get an idea of how he is trying to counter you i.e. is he is looking to throw an over hand right over your jab etc. If he is catching your jab with his back hand then he probably won't be able to generate too much power with his back hand (which is the shot you need to worry about - assuming you both have the same stance).

2) Don't be predictable, change your rhythm / feint before committing (lots of variety in your feints).

3) When you do commit, keep your chin tucked and use your shoulders for extra protection (i.e turn your shots over and raise your shoulder to protect your chin more). Keep low and when you slip across to throw your right and move your head down wards as well as across to the left as you slip.

4) Speed. Drive your feet into position and ensure your slip just enough to avoid his counters. If you slip too far it will take you longer to throw your combo and give him the opportunity to counter and it will affect your balance.

It can be dangerous, but then again every shot you throw can be dangerous.

For now, I would try and ensure my jab actually "lands" first before attempting this. If you step in with a stiff jab to the chest / shoulder area you will affect his balance and thus reduce the chances of him countering you and if he does is power will not be too much of a concern.

Also, this combo is all about timing. I teach our lads to be "first and third" when explaining things like this. You be first with your jab, and you want you opponent to counter i.e. he goes (second). And then you counter with your right hand (third). You are ready for the counter so it's just a matter of timing when to throw and move your head. I feel this help beginners understand the importance of timing rather than simply executing a combo that is practiced on the pads. And because you are expecting the counter things seem less daunting for a beginner because things are going to plan.

Brilliant thanks alot mate really useful knowledge!!!
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:42 AM   #6
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Depends which way ur slipping. To the outside of the punch, or the inside?

If u slip to the inside of the jab, moving ur head left presuming both of u are orthodox, and then slip ur head to the right, thereby slipping to the inside of the opponent's right hand, then ur pretty safe.

If u slip the jab to the outside, head to the right, and then try to slip the right hand to the left, you are courting disaster!!! It's a move so many trainers use with the pads because its so convenient, but in practice, very very risky.

Safest bet is to slip the jab to the outside, then slip the right to the inside. In other words, slip to the right, and slip again to the right, or slide with it. Then slip to the left for the left hook (to the inside). At each point, you are ready to counter.
Cheers mate much appreciated
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