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Old 11-23-2012, 03:21 AM   #1
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Default Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring

Was reading a book earlier and it said "Rumour had it Joe Gans dropped Dempsey in sparring"

Any truth to it?
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:40 AM   #2
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What was the book?
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:28 AM   #3
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Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

Could be that Dempsey was such a draw and a superstar that things like this popped up.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:03 AM   #4
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Of course, things stranger than fiction happen in sparring, but sparring Chineese whispers are also prolific.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:25 AM   #5
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Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

He was a beast in sparring though.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:44 AM   #6
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Sparring is upside down world, a lightweight and middleweight knock down and beat up the world heavyweight champ, Dempsey fights big black men.....upside down world it is

Anything can happen in boxing/sparring but yea I doubt it
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:10 AM   #7
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No. Dempsey was 15 ****ing years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:12 AM   #8
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Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.
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In that case... Gans was black and Dempsey ducked him. Truth!
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:59 AM   #10
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Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.
I hope this doesn't get me banned , but I believe the Joe Gans referred to is the gentleman on the right of this photo. ie Panama Joe Gans, but you knew that didn't you Hamish?

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I dont think there are many stories of Dempsey being floored in sparring ,it seems most went out of their way to avoid making him unduly upset. According to Larry Gains, he punished the respectful ones , but he crucified any that got adventurous.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:02 AM   #11
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No. Dempsey was 15 ****ing years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]Panama Joe Gans, with Wills ,and Louis.1938


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Godfrey was the main sparring partner
Tate was used for strength
Jamaica Kid for brawling
Gans for speed .
[I pinched this info from CBZ.]
BTW. Gans beat Dempsey in 1923 and Wills in 1927 .
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:11 AM   #12
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I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.
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I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.
somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjo0ajod1M[/ame]
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:23 AM   #14
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somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Hey! Its Enrico Palazzo!
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Absolutely brilliant clip!
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