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Old 11-23-2012, 08:46 AM   #31
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Default Re: Robert Guerrero will beat Andre Berto

we will see what berto is all bout off peds. i think he will lose
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:49 AM   #32
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I don't think Robert has the power to stop Berto. But he consistent enuf to outwork Berto for a UD. Even against smaller guys like Robert, Berto has never looked all that impressive. I think Robert can force a fast paced fight and wear Berto down over the distance.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:29 AM   #33
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Ive said it before and i'll say it again . Andre Berto is a very flawed fighter . He seems like a very likable guy but he always fails to impress me and to think people actually thought he would stand a chance against Floyd or Manny . Nobody thinks that anymore, Courtesy of Victor Ortiz .
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:54 AM   #34
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Ive said it before and i'll say it again . Andre Berto is a very flawed fighter . He seems like a very likable guy but he always fails to impress me and to think people actually thought he would stand a chance against Floyd or Manny . Nobody thinks that anymore, Courtesy of Victor Ortiz .
Ortiz took the Collazo fight plan and fought it to perfection. Berto can't fight inside. He can't defend inside. He can only hold in a flawed manner that gets him hit. Collazo stayed in his bread basket and worked. Only problem is that Collazo tired himself out doing it and Berto came on strong at the end. Ortiz did the same thing. Stayed close and worked inside, and was whipping Mike's ass...and he tired. Zaveck was doing the same thing...and he tired. Guerrero's got to stay inside and work the body. If he tries to outbox him, he's going to get bombed out.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:56 AM   #35
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Guerrero UD. I agree with everything the OP has said.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #36
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Berto is gonna walk right through him and Guerrero will bail just like he started to do against Yordan.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:28 PM   #37
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Kind of off topic but i thought berto was fighting K9 at 154 or did i just read some imaginary post a month ago?
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:52 PM   #38
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The basic principle should be - It doesn't matter how good your opponent is as long as you give your best effort - I trully believe that Robert Guerrero would be successful against Andre Berto if he fights at his own best. There's nothing exceptional that Andre Berto brings to the table that disables Robert Guerrero to fight his fight and remember, Robert fights as a Champion throughout the 12 rounds. Whether it is Berto's handspeed, punching power, flashy style, whatever it is, nothing stands in between Robert and his main objectiv...
Of course if it was Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao, then Robert would have to bring more to the table cause these fighters, Floyd or Manny, already bring that much that whatever Robert does or tries to do remains overshadowed by them.
For instance, if Floyd Mayweather would fight Guerrero and would sistematically break his gameplan by being busier, then it would play against Guerrero and he would look bad. If it was Manny dictating the pace and building a solid win based on volume of punches, Guerrero wouldn't stand a chance. However, Berto is not surely busy enough or that much controlling the tempo of the fight to put Guerrero in second place behind him.
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Old 11-23-2012, 02:03 PM   #39
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Love the Ghost here, although I believe he has his work cut out for him big time. I believe Gurerro to be the techically superior fighter here, and has a better chin and a ton more heart then Berto. But Berto packs a good punch, has solid power at 147, and his speed will be a factor. And while this isn't set in stone, Berto hasn't looked like anything special facing south paws. ONe thing Guererro can do is adjust well, and bang when he needs to. Guererro is so underrated here, and hated for the most part becasue he wants big fights. YEt when it came to his time to face the champs, they dropped belts or just moved on to bigger and better fights, to no fault of anyone. Ghost's time to shiine is overdue, and I hope he makes the most of it.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:54 PM   #40
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I don't think Guerrero's quite good enough to outbox him from the outside (though turning him and throwing behind his jab is his best bet), and on the inside, Berto has too much physicality and power for the ghost to withstand without fading.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:07 PM   #41
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Nandre Bertroid will be fully exposed tomorrow by a guy who has no place at 147, lets see what his power and speed are like when he aint juiced to the eyeballs
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:23 PM   #42
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I don't think Guerrero's quite good enough to outbox him from the outside (though turning him and throwing behind his jab is his best bet), and on the inside, Berto has too much physicality and power for the ghost to withstand without fading.
Would have agreed with Berto's physicality being key even before I saw Guerrero at the weigh in. Looks very soft.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:35 PM   #43
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Think Berto is too strong and fast for the Ghost at 147.. He doesn't belong there IMO. Don't think the Guerrero will get Berto's respect enough to discourage him. Berto is lost on the inside, but his power and size will probably be too much for Robert there.. Not sure if Robert can outbox Berto to a decision, guess that's why we watch the fights!
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #44
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Somebody make a poll.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:48 PM   #45
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he's a -130 underdog and berto is +160 at bodog
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