Bernard Hopkins - How great?

the_bigunit · 11-24-2012, 01:20 AM

What Bernard Hopkins is currently doing/accomplishing, how historically great is it really?

47 years old and damn near the top of his division.

* Not to mention, he's only fighting 10-20 pounds above the early stages of his career. Him not blowing up to a slob of a heavyweight is great in itself, IMO.

blagovech · 11-24-2012, 01:29 AM

def an atg top 4-5 middleweight ever ya feel me pimp

tezel8764 · 11-24-2012, 01:36 AM

PED's bro.

blagovech · 11-24-2012, 01:44 AM

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PED's bro.

b-hop wasnt on peds homeslice

MAG1965 · 11-24-2012, 02:29 AM

he is a hard one to rate. He is great, yet he was not top 30 ATG.. A very solid fighter..

Nonito Smoak · 11-24-2012, 04:32 AM

I'd put him around 30 on an ATG list...

lufcrazy · 11-24-2012, 04:54 AM

Achieved greatness as a mw and is achieving furthe greatness as a 40+ lhw.

leedsnproud · 11-24-2012, 08:35 AM

Below Calzaghe

leedsnproud · 11-24-2012, 08:53 AM

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Was it his stunning win over Jeff Lacy or Mikkel Kessler that made you think he's greater than Hopkins?

No,his dominance of a cheating cunt Hopkins in the ring.

leedsnproud · 11-24-2012, 09:00 AM

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115-113 is hardly dominant, now is it?

If he had tried fighting instead of cheating it would have been much clearer on the cards. He should have been disqualified.
Absolute disgrace that he got away with it.
Calzaghe beat him with brittle hands too. True great.

dpw417 · 11-24-2012, 10:12 AM

Atg.

the_bigunit · 11-24-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by orriray59

Top 50, I'd say. He was definitely great, and one of the smartest boxers I've ever seen. His craftiness and ring IQ was astounding. Has wins over De La Hoya, Trinidad, Tarver, Pavlik, Pascal, Johnson, Wright, Joppy, etc.
His masterclass against Pavlik at 43 years old really helps his legacy, I think.

Great all-round fighter.

You continue to give me threads excellent feedback. Thank you!

the cobra · 11-24-2012, 12:06 PM

Really great.

I'd have him inside the top 40.

Nightcrawler · 11-24-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the cobra

Really great.

I'd have him inside the top 40.

about where i have him

thistle1 · 11-24-2012, 12:50 PM

Very Good!

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the_bigunit Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,121 vCash: 500	Bernard Hopkins - How great? What Bernard Hopkins is currently doing/accomplishing, how historically great is it really? 47 years old and damn near the top of his division. * Not to mention, he's only fighting 10-20 pounds above the early stages of his career. Him not blowing up to a slob of a heavyweight is great in itself, IMO.
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blagovech esbs #1 pedo ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: USA USA USA Posts: 752 vCash: 500	Re: Bernard Hopkins - How great? def an atg top 4-5 middleweight ever ya feel me pimp
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tezel8764 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,947 vCash: 527	Re: Bernard Hopkins - How great? PED's bro.
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MAG1965 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas,Texas. Posts: 17,400 vCash: 1010	Re: Bernard Hopkins - How great? he is a hard one to rate. He is great, yet he was not top 30 ATG.. A very solid fighter..
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