Bernard Hopkins - How great?

the_bigunit · 11-24-2012, 01:20 AM

What Bernard Hopkins is currently doing/accomplishing, how historically great is it really?

47 years old and damn near the top of his division.

* Not to mention, he's only fighting 10-20 pounds above the early stages of his career. Him not blowing up to a slob of a heavyweight is great in itself, IMO.

blagovech · 11-24-2012, 01:29 AM

def an atg top 4-5 middleweight ever ya feel me pimp

tezel8764 · 11-24-2012, 01:36 AM

PED's bro.

blagovech · 11-24-2012, 01:44 AM

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PED's bro.

b-hop wasnt on peds homeslice

MAG1965 · 11-24-2012, 02:29 AM

he is a hard one to rate. He is great, yet he was not top 30 ATG.. A very solid fighter..

Nonito Smoak · 11-24-2012, 04:32 AM

I'd put him around 30 on an ATG list...

lufcrazy · 11-24-2012, 04:54 AM

Achieved greatness as a mw and is achieving furthe greatness as a 40+ lhw.

orriray59 · 11-24-2012, 04:59 AM

Top 50, I'd say. He was definitely great, and one of the smartest boxers I've ever seen. His craftiness and ring IQ was astounding. Has wins over De La Hoya, Trinidad, Tarver, Pavlik, Pascal, Johnson, Wright, Joppy, etc.
His masterclass against Pavlik at 43 years old really helps his legacy, I think.

Great all-round fighter.

leedsnproud · 11-24-2012, 08:35 AM

Below Calzaghe

orriray59 · 11-24-2012, 08:41 AM

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Below Calzaghe

Was it his stunning win over Jeff Lacy or Mikkel Kessler that made you think he's greater than Hopkins?

leedsnproud · 11-24-2012, 08:53 AM

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Was it his stunning win over Jeff Lacy or Mikkel Kessler that made you think he's greater than Hopkins?

No,his dominance of a cheating cunt Hopkins in the ring.

orriray59 · 11-24-2012, 08:57 AM

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No,his dominance of a cheating cunt Hopkins in the ring.

115-113 is hardly dominant, now is it?

leedsnproud · 11-24-2012, 09:00 AM

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115-113 is hardly dominant, now is it?

If he had tried fighting instead of cheating it would have been much clearer on the cards. He should have been disqualified.
Absolute disgrace that he got away with it.
Calzaghe beat him with brittle hands too. True great.

dpw417 · 11-24-2012, 10:12 AM

Atg.

the_bigunit · 11-24-2012, 11:25 AM

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Top 50, I'd say. He was definitely great, and one of the smartest boxers I've ever seen. His craftiness and ring IQ was astounding. Has wins over De La Hoya, Trinidad, Tarver, Pavlik, Pascal, Johnson, Wright, Joppy, etc.
His masterclass against Pavlik at 43 years old really helps his legacy, I think.

Great all-round fighter.

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the_bigunit Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,345 vCash: 500	Bernard Hopkins - How great? What Bernard Hopkins is currently doing/accomplishing, how historically great is it really? 47 years old and damn near the top of his division. * Not to mention, he's only fighting 10-20 pounds above the early stages of his career. Him not blowing up to a slob of a heavyweight is great in itself, IMO.
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