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Old 11-24-2012, 06:12 AM   #16
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Officially, he didn't beat Welsh. I don't have time to look through the clippings, but after Packey's return to USA, the day he was to fight Dick Hyland, NY Times wrote:

"So far as condition is concerned, Packey McFarland, whom many good judges of pugilism believe to be the ablest lightweight in the business"

NY Sun writer (could be Hanna or Villa, I'm not sure who wrote "current sporting gossip" column at the time), wrote after the fight his opinion that if McFarland were allowed to weigh in at 135 pounds at 3 PM "He would probably have outpointed Wolgast with ease in a ten round bout"
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Cheers mate.
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:48 AM   #18
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It'd be more difficult to find quotes from 1908, as Nelson beat Gans and McFarland drew with Welsh on the same day, there are too many write-ups. Had McFarland received the decision over Welsh, in all probability he'd have been the next opponent for Nelson.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:33 AM   #19
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All in all he must rank very highly atg.

he also spent a while as the best WW imo after beating Bronson. Plus he beat the beat mw in the world in mike gibbons (some reports say bartfield beat him prior but I've read conflicting storied and see it more like a draw).

Shame he never got the fight with wolgast nor nelson.
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Based on what I've seen, I also have Bartfield-Gibbons a draw.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:27 AM   #21
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Based on what I've seen, I also have Bartfield-Gibbons a draw.

I did come across a scathing report but it just seemed wholly biased against mike. Saying he lost clearly to soldier, packey and Lewis. It also referred to Lewis as a second rate welterweight!
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I have

Bartfield: Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Brooklyn Citizen, Brooklyn Standard Union, Brooklyn Times (searched by Jack Kincaid).
Gibbons: NY Sun, George B. Underwood (NY Press).
Draw: NY Tribune, NY Times, NY Evening World, AP, other New York City newspapers (searched by Jack Kincaid).
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:07 AM   #23
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Bartfield: Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Brooklyn Citizen, Brooklyn Standard Union, Brooklyn Times (searched by Jack Kincaid).
Gibbons: NY Sun, George B. Underwood (NY Press).
Draw: NY Tribune, NY Times, NY Evening World, AP, other New York City newspapers (searched by Jack Kincaid).
yeah I had the 4 brooklyn as they're mentioned on boxrec. the rest seemed to paint a draw more than anything else like you say.
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