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Old 11-25-2012, 01:44 AM   #16
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seriously man. I could write out a list of things that are wrong with Berto. He needs to just dump his corner, stop lifting weights unless it's squats and deadlifts and learn to box
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:47 AM   #17
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Flat footed at all times, zero lateral movement, lacks any understanding of how to operate on the inside, and a sub-par punch resistance.

Needs a new trainer in the worst way.
A new trainer doesn't fix MOST problems.

At THIS stage, Berto is what he is. There's no changing or fixing him.

Khan can't be fixed either.

At least Berto has decent powers of recovery though. When Khan get's seriously hurt, you know he's ****ed.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:08 AM   #18
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A new trainer doesn't fix MOST problems.

At THIS stage, Berto is what he is. There's no changing or fixing him.

Khan can't be fixed either.

At least Berto has decent powers of recovery though. When Khan get's seriously hurt, you know he's ****ed.

Perhaps, though I still be believe there's room for refinement if he seeks out the right trainer. Considering how good Maidana looked in his last outing with improvements in his movement and general defense, I'd like to see Andre work with Garcia.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:15 AM   #19
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Perhaps, though I still be believe there's room for refinement if he seeks out the right trainer. Considering how good Maidana looked in his last outing with improvements in his movement and general defense, I'd like to see Andre work with Garcia.
That actually doesn't seem like a bad fit.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:21 AM   #20
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Berto has china for a chin and goes into a shell when hurt. Havnt they taught him how to spin off the ropes or pivot, he just stands there and lets you maul him. I thought he was a punk before tonight but he came back n fought like a warrior. You can call me a fan now.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:22 AM   #21
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Started out in the wrong stance, completely unprepared to roll and turn away from the southpaw overhand left.

I agree about the stamina issues, the man explodes and then gasps for air and waits to repeat. He had many opportunities to throw on the inside and seemed to only be able to throw in bursts, while Guerrero almost never stopped punching.

He needs to develop a rhythm and learn how to set punches up. His straight right hand was missing, and every time he went for it, it was only after leading with the jab. He has the advantage at range and should take advantage of it with variety, not pawing the shit out of Guerrero's lead hand and then lunging with a right hand he can easily anticipate.

I remember him looking impressive against Quintana despite the bicep injury, he needs to get back to the basics and work on his fundamentals. He has a lot of speed, power, grit, but he needs to understand he can't just bully everyone and expect them to fold when he lands a right uppercut.
How am i not surprised, you writing a ****in 5 paragraph essay on this.

****in bogo....
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:54 AM   #22
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idk berto was always an outside fighter that would throw a set of combos and clinch and reset and do it again.... he just doesnt have the work rate to keep a busy fighter off of him...

putting berto in the same level as gatti is an insult to gatti... gatti would let his hands go in those clinches unlike berto who was happy just holding and waiting for the ref to decided when to break them up. not one bit like gatti......
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:55 AM   #23
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Perhaps, though I still be believe there's room for refinement if he seeks out the right trainer. Considering how good Maidana looked in his last outing with improvements in his movement and general defense, I'd like to see Andre work with Garcia.
I think Wards trainer would be better.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:57 AM   #24
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Berto's inside game is terrible he has no strength at all, he needs a new trainer asap
his best style is where he flicks out a jab and looks for a big right hand
hes tryna out brawl guys but it really is not workin at all
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:30 AM   #25
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It looked like Berto didn't even want to be in there tonight. At first I thought he was paid off because the first 8 round he hardly threw any punches. I don't know what to say about him.

Berto clearly didn't have a Plan B when his Plan A(Hit dude from lower weight class until he falls over) didn't work. He obviously expected to hurt Guerrero badly with his power and it just didn't happen. He grossly underestimated Guerrero's resolve, plain and simple.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:42 AM   #26
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Berto's inside game is terrible he has no strength at all, he needs a new trainer asap
his best style is where he flicks out a jab and looks for a big right hand
hes tryna out brawl guys but it really is not workin at all
I agree that Berto is most effective when he works behind the jab, counters with the right hand and looks for opportunities to land the uppercut. Guerrero simply did an outstanding job of slipping the right hand, staying in Andre's chest and *gasp* absorbing Berto's uppercut without flinching. If Berto can't land the right hand or hurt you with the uppercut, he can't win. War Guerrero.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:59 AM   #27
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I agree that Berto is most effective when he works behind the jab, counters with the right hand and looks for opportunities to land the uppercut. Guerrero simply did an outstanding job of slipping the right hand, staying in Andre's chest and *gasp* absorbing Berto's uppercut without flinching. If Berto can't land the right hand or hurt you with the uppercut, he can't win. War Guerrero.
yeah i agree, but tbh Berto made the right hand so predictable Guerrero would just duck it then get in close, i dunno whats wrong with the guy he gets wobbled by the lightest punches but then can randomly take good punches
he needs to work with Anne Wolfe asap
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:03 AM   #28
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guerrero made me a believer. i love Jesus!!!
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:36 AM   #29
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Bad defense shit footwork can't fight on the inside weak chin low ring iq. He's nothing but a slugger with speed.
I would also add, the very very worse corner/trainer to that list.

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It's like Berto forgot who he is/was. Berto was always a "Boxer". Stayed on the outside, used range, his speed and his jab. In his past 3 fights (Ortiz, that Euro dude and Guerrero) Berto just seem content with laying on the ropes fighting on the inside and trying to bang. WTF? IMO, It's one of two things...Either he no longer has the stamina to "Box" for 12 rounds or he has a VERY POOR CORNER.
Berto is a great athlete who lacks skill and is very flawed, seriously think about it for a minute, it doesn't matter what style he uses, no one with that much speed, should ever be easy to hit.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:32 AM   #30
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Good thing Guerrero lay it down on that PEDrto fool.
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