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Old 11-25-2012, 06:27 AM   #1
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Default Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

Harry Wills is enjoying a positive re-evaluation at present.
I've matched him with 4 Champs .prime for prime 15rds ,who wins these bouts?
Jack Dempsey v H W
Joe Louis v HW
Rocky Marciano v HW
Jack Johnson v HW

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Old 11-25-2012, 06:32 AM   #2
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didnt he lose bill tate while in his prime...ehhhh
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:50 AM   #3
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insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:59 AM   #4
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insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.
Does this also apply to
Harry Greb,Maxie Rosenbloom, Joe Jeannette, Bob Fitzsimmons, Marvin Hart,Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson,Stan Ketchel, Billy Miske, Frank Klaus ,Billy Petrolle , Benny Leonard,Joe Walcott, Joe Gans, etc.?
If so fair enough. But we must then cease matching up classic fighters if that is the criteria.

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Old 11-25-2012, 08:10 AM   #5
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Does this also apply to
Harry Greb,Maxie Rosenbloom, Joe Jeannette, Bob Fitzsimmons, Marvin Hart,Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson,Stan ktchel, Billy Miske, Frank Klaus ,Billy Petrolle , Benny Leonard,Joe Walcott, Joe Gans, etc.?
If so fair enough. But we must then cease matching up classic fighters if that is the criteria.
Not all you mentioned. If I see a fighter in his prime I can make a judgement that I'm happy with.

I don't agree with matching up fighters we've not seen neither.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:26 AM   #6
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insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.
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Not all you mentioned. If I see a fighter in his prime I can make a judgement that I'm happy with.

I don't agree with matching up fighters we've not seen neither.
I have to agree

what have we got to work off, Wills looking sloppy and getting KO'ed by Uzcudun ?
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:32 AM   #7
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didnt he lose bill tate while in his prime...ehhhh
Not really, he knocked Tate out while punching on the break and was DQ'ed

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insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.
THIS, he could have been Ali and Foreman rolled into 1 or just another Willard

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Does this also apply to
Harry Greb,Maxie Rosenbloom, Joe Jeannette, Bob Fitzsimmons, Marvin Hart,Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson,Stan ktchel, Billy Miske, Frank Klaus ,Billy Petrolle , Benny Leonard,Joe Walcott, Joe Gans, etc.?
If so fair enough. But we must then cease matching up classic fighters if that is the criteria.
Pretty much although some of those at least have footage, which highlight limitations or strengths
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He lost by a DQ...they fought again a few days later...and than he lost a clear decision.
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He lost by a DQ...they fought again a few days later...and than he lost a clear decision.
No it was a draw, which was an abberation as he'd knocked Tate out several times already
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i stand corrected..either way its something how many damn rematches the guy had with all the top black fighters of his day.
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