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Old 11-25-2012, 04:06 PM   #46
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how bout Pac vs Margo

Margo stuns Pac to the body and clearly has him hurt could possible be a turning point and the commentators are discussing Manny's new hairstyle

if your showing a one sided fight and the beaten up guy lands something big isnt it a good idea to start calling it to keep the casuals or are now more interested in their beer and wings more into the fight

the HBO guys i admit are great when they dont have a house fighter and there isnt much of an agenda, its rare but when they have no stake in the fight and its win win for the network they usually call good
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:13 PM   #47
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Man, I am not saying that Pac didn't really win the fight, but it is the way they called the fight. I watch that fight at least 5 times. The HBO crew was On Pac wagon before the fight. When the fight started, They would not acknowledge when Bradley hit Pac. Its like brain washing. If you keep hearing, Pac lands a punch, pac lands a punch, pac lands a punch, etc..... You are going to question if Bradley even connect ever! They fight was close as shit, and Pac only fought the last 20 seconds of each round!
Maybe because Bradley hardly landed anything. That fight wasn't remotely close and if you aren't trolling you are a ****ing idiot that knows absolutely jack shit about boxing. But I suspect you are trolling.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:25 PM   #48
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Kellerman >>>>>>> Merchant
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:49 PM   #49
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Man, I am not saying that Pac didn't really win the fight, but it is the way they called the fight. I watch that fight at least 5 times. The HBO crew was On Pac wagon before the fight. When the fight started, They would not acknowledge when Bradley hit Pac. Its like brain washing. If you keep hearing, Pac lands a punch, pac lands a punch, pac lands a punch, etc..... You are going to question if Bradley even connect ever! They fight was close as shit, and Pac only fought the last 20 seconds of each round!
I think a better example would be Pac-Marquez III, when they just deliberately ignored clean, hard punches landed by Marquez and instead screamed about, "Man, look at Pacquiao's footwork as he's getting hit."

Kellerman especially was a scumbag for the way he called that fight, since he goes out of his way to suck off the boxer/counterpuncher-type in every other fight he calls. He basically sold his soul when calling that fight.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:55 PM   #50
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I love how during the Berto fight, HBO's crew went out of their way to pretend that all the great fights we've had on Showtime all year long never happened.

Even at the end of the fight, Kellerman attempted to list all the great fights we've had this year -

"In a year in which we've had fights like Rios-Alvarado, and..."

- then he pauses, suddenly cuts off his thought, and says -

"...well, this fight was as good as we've had all year."

What a bunch of childish faggots.

Even worse is when Showtime shows a fight on the same night, with a delayed broadcast on the west coast, and HBO deliberately spoils the results of the fight on air during their broadcast.

No wonder Showtime doesn't want to get involved in their joint "video sharing" venture. Maybe if HBO's crew started acting like adults first.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:14 PM   #51
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add khan vs garcia, khan lands an average shot and lampley yells "khan has taken over" all while garcia is beating the shit out of khan.

so true
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:15 PM   #52
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Lampley, yes. (along with Merchant)

Kellerman, no.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #53
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After every HBO fight,"HBO needs to fire this guy or this guy blah blah blah."
Watch it with the sound off then,stop whining like a little bitch.

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #54
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Maybe because Bradley hardly landed anything. That fight wasn't remotely close and if you aren't trolling you are a ****ing idiot that knows absolutely jack shit about boxing. But I suspect you are trolling.



hEY MAN **** YOU....I said it was a close fight. Pac only fought the last 20 seconds of each round, and all of the punches bradley landed were ignored by the HBO cast!
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:21 PM   #55
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Sooner or later, HBO will acquire Showtime or vice versa. Then we'll have boxing on every weekend, and a dream commentary lineup.

HBO WCB/Showtime Championship Boxing: Al Bernstein as main play-by-play, Roy Jones Jr. as color, Max Kellerman as expert analyst.

HBO BAD/ShoBox The New Generation: Steve Farhood as main play-by-play, Antonio Tarver as color, Brian Kenney as expert analyst.

Happy trails to Larry Merchant, Jim Lampley, Bob Papa, Gus Johnson, and Curt Menefee.

Oh, and Chuck Giampa replacing Harold Lederman on the big shows as unofficial scorer.

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:24 PM   #56
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Disagree with the Pac -Bradley assessment. Fight was a rout for Pacquiao plain and simple.
Regardless of the decision, that fight was called horribly by Jim in a complete bias to everything Pac was doing, and that is a fact. If you doubt this at all you need to rewatch the fight and pay attention to the commentating that is going on and see how off it is with the action taking place.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:16 PM   #57
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how bout Pac vs Margo

Margo stuns Pac to the body and clearly has him hurt could possible be a turning point and the commentators are discussing Manny's new hairstyle

if your showing a one sided fight and the beaten up guy lands something big isnt it a good idea to start calling it to keep the casuals or are now more interested in their beer and wings more into the fight

the HBO guys i admit are great when they dont have a house fighter and there isnt much of an agenda, its rare but when they have no stake in the fight and its win win for the network they usually call good
All you'd have then would be a bunch of threads complaining about HBO trying to 'manufacture drama' in blowouts.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:22 PM   #58
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You cunts need to learn some FULL TRUTH.

HBO's boxing commentary teams are pretty much always better than Showtime's.

Al Bernstein is just shit and the most overrated commentator in the history of the sport. The only cunt he is better than, is Howard Cosell.

Merchant was great, but is now too old.

Kellerman is improving and helps create a good atmosphere.

Lampley also use to be great, but is now clearly on the downslide.

Bob Papa is solid.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:22 PM   #59
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Kellerman is worse than ****in useless

Jim is a cyborg, a non stop yapping machine, but he'll do

Larry is dead cool even though he speaks to the fighters as if they are retarded.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:30 PM   #60
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You cunts need to learn some FULL TRUTH.


Al Bernstein is just shit and the most overrated commentator in the history of the sport. The only cunt he is better than, is Howard Cosell.


I've hated this cunt for years, most overated self promoting shithouse of the modern era, he would just not shut his ****ing mouth for a second during a round. He ruined the commentary of so many top fights in the 80's it was criminal.

All he would screach was, HE'S RIGHTY! NOW HE'S LEFTY! NOW HE'S INSIDE! NOW HE'S OUTSIDE! I just wanted to kick his ****ing teeth out It's got to be a given that Bernstein & the Kellermans of this world had to have smoked the bosses **** to get where they are
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