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View Poll Results: Victory: tastes like Lebanese mezze (baba ganoush thru baklava) or a sándwich Cubano?
Charr on points 12 48.00%
Charr by stoppage 6 24.00%
Draw 0 0%
Gomez on points 7 28.00%
Gomez by stoppage 0 0%
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:12 PM   #1
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Default Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

The Diamond Boy (WBC #9) is coming back against bad-penny contender Pantera Negra (WBC #33) to embark on the road to his desired rematch with WBC heavyweight champion Dr. Iron Fist.

It's taking place in Charr's backyard. Der Vaterland is also Gomez's adoptive home, but the card is being promoted by Charr himself. Charr is stacking the deck for himself to shoot back up the rankings and count a laudable coup on paper, taking on a man who's the same size but eleven years older and in notoriously poorer shape than Charr, and growing long in the tooth even for heavyweight with once formidable skills well into deterioration. It's scheduled for twelve, so in spite of Gomez's low ranking making an eliminator unlikely - don't rule out some minor vacant WBC bauble (like the "Asia Boxing Council" piece of tin last defended by Chauncy Welliver in January) to wind up on the line, propelling Charr into an eliminator next time out assuming everything goes to plan. Charr was looking for an immediate rematch with Vitali Klitschko, so chances are he'll be keeping a very active schedule and skipping the rebuilding process against any unranked no-marks while racing the clock against Vitali's impending retirement. He'll probably be looking to make statements as well, hunting for knockouts to help plead his case for redemption, so expect a little more aggression than usual from him.

Gomez should arguably be undefeated dating back to his own loss to Vitali Klitschko in 2009. In the nearly four years since then he's competed eight times but only half of those outings have been remotely meaningful: blasting out Mazikin (a roughly Firtha/Gavern level Ukrainian), respectably shutting out professional gut-checker and fine-tuning practice-dummy Zack Page, and splitting a pair with former Cruiserweight KO artist and bubble man Ding-A-Ling Wilson. Gomez sustained an injury the first time and fought effectively one-handed, but still earned the nod in many observers' view (similar to Chambers vs. Adamek) - and then avenged the loss by stopping Ding on cuts. Over thirteen-plus rounds together he failed to really separate himself by too much from Wilson, a sluggish and ineffective heavyweight well past his best days. The smooth and perennially calm southpaw was at one time considered among the top h2h big men after K2, but that was long ago. He'll need to bring more intensity than he's shown in years to stave off the very hungry and obsessively determined (and much fresher) protagonist of the show. He can still out-jab Charr in a fencing match, but that might not be enough.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:22 PM   #2
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

I think your analysis is spot on really. Gomez is fat and past-it, and was never that good in the first place at HW.

Charr, for all his faults, has a good work rate which is all should be needed really against old and shot Gomez.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:35 PM   #3
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

I can't decide yet whether this could have some decent action (think Charr pressing in gangbusters with above-the-chest hooking combos and Gomez countering through the fray on the backfoot) or unbearably boring and full of clinches.

IMO that's harder than sussing out a winner.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #4
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

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I can't decide yet whether this could have some decent action (think Charr pressing in gangbusters with above-the-chest hooking combos and Gomez countering through the fray on the backfoot) or unbearably boring.

IMO that's harder than sussing out a winner.
The latter. It will be a boring wide UD for Charr, Gomez is done...
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:41 PM   #5
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

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The latter. It will be a boring wide UD for Charr, Gomez is done...

Yeah, probably. I suppose it depends on whether JC really wants to go for it one last time. Beating Charr would almost triple his standing and place him near the top ten, maybe a couple of eliminators away from one more title shot.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:44 PM   #6
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Is this fight back on? I thought it was cancelled a couple of days ago.
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

On Manuel Charr's official page it is still on
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:06 PM   #8
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Interesting fight that, Charr will win by wide UD maybe stoppage if he's lucky.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:53 PM   #9
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Gomez is the infinitely better fighter.
If he can get in shape,he should still be able to beat Charr at this late stage in his career
Gomez may be a has been.
But Charr is a never will be.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:07 PM   #10
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

won't be surprised if Gomez boxes off Charr's ears, then the ref pulls a bullshit ala Danny Williams stoppage from his hat
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Gomez is old , out of shape and had shoulder surgery.
He overruns Charr skill wise but at this point I'm not sure he can beat a top HW.
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Woulda been a decent matchup 3 or so yrs ago, but Im with the consensus opinion here.....Gomez is past his best and will lose to a super hungry Charr.

Gomez never was a real go get em type, and although he should still be able to counter pretty effectively in this one, it won't be enough.

Going out on a limb and calling this one for Charr by T/KO....rds 7-10.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #13
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Very good comeback fight and step UP fight for Charr as well.

He couldve easily gotten Ding or Gavern or any number of random Euro journeymen.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:51 PM   #14
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

Could Gomez open a cut? Same place as last time?

His ring IQ is high...
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #15
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Default Re: Manuel Charr vs. Juan Carlos Gomez, December 22nd

This is the kind of fight Charr should've had before Vitali. Even if Gomez has been ridden hard and put away wet, then dried up almost completely, then steamrolled and dried out again. I'd pick Gomez of Virchis to embarrass Charr a bit but he'll likely just be a nice experience fight for Charr now. Charr, UD.
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