Swimming for boxing.

fistycuffs · 11-26-2012, 10:17 PM

Hello all

I have been swimming laps in order to help my boxing cardio. Does anyone have any advice on how to swim for boxing??
I know the Klitschko bros do Alot of swimming, so I would like to know more.

NVSemin · 11-27-2012, 05:11 AM

The problem with swimming a lot is that you may loose hand speed. It develops different muscle types. Look at bodies of swimmers and boxers, there are quite some differences.
You gotta compensate that somehow. Yea, for cardio it is quite ok, also helps avoid knee problems from running

captain hook · 11-27-2012, 07:00 AM

why would you loose hand speed? its not that you are lifting something or that your muscles are getting heavier.
even some boxers are shadow boxing in pool because of water resistance to improve their hand speed.. (i think its james toney but not sure, too lazy to search

)
swimming is great to improve cardio and it also strengthens whole body

try pyramid tehnic: 400m any tempo
200m (25m sprint, 25m any tempo and style, its like rest)
100m fastest you can
200m same as 200 above
400m same as 400 above

dealt_with · 11-27-2012, 07:27 AM

You're not gonna lose hand speed but it's about as un-sports specific as you can get, it's not going to do much at all for your boxing fitness.

dempsey1234 · 11-30-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

You're not gonna lose hand speed but it's about as un-sports specific as you can get, it's not going to do much at all for your boxing fitness.

Former champion, Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz, never ran, he was on the stairmaster and in the swimming pool. It worked for him, but is it for everybody, that I can't say. Diaz never had a hand speed, or stamina problem.

fire50 · 02-08-2013, 07:46 AM

Yes this is good one exercise, because in swimming you do exercise of how to swim and you make good exercise for of your hand practice....

Mighty_Fighter · 02-08-2013, 09:14 AM

I've seen a picture of Klitschko shadow boxing under water.

Swimming is an all-round body workout and really helps your breathing technique. A lot of boxers swim for their training. Amir Khan, Juan Diaz, Klitschkos, Pacquiao tried it...

OG Wenger · 02-08-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

You're not gonna lose hand speed but it's about as un-sports specific as you can get, it's not going to do much at all for your boxing fitness.

You could say the same about running...

scrap · 02-08-2013, 09:27 AM

Running in water is good, but make sure everything is submerged. We use to wear Snorkels, strapped to the forehead, to stop damaging the upper vertabrae.

BUMPY KNUCKLES · 02-08-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scrap

Running in water is good, but make sure everything is submerged. We use to wear Snorkels, strapped to the forehead, to stop damaging the upper vertabrae.

You must of looked a right nutcase over the years with your of training routines scrap

dealt_with · 02-08-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Wenger

You could say the same about running...

Not really at all... If you can't see that running is more specific to boxing than swimming is then I don't know what to tell you. If boxing is 100 then running is 75, Swimming would be 15. Running is impact and you contract a lot of muscle, a lot of the same muscles used in boxing. If you get fit running there will be a lot of transfer to boxing. Not with swimming. Swimming is good for recovery and aiding breathing but it's not going to get you in any sort of shape for boxing. Cycling would be far better than swimming as well, not as good as running as you're not on your feet and you don't contract as much muscle (so VO2 will be lower) but still far more beneficial then swimming.

BUMPY KNUCKLES · 02-08-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

Not really at all... If you can't see that running is more specific to boxing than swimming is then I don't know what to tell you. If boxing is 100 then running is 75, Swimming would be 15. Running is impact and you contract a lot of muscle, a lot of the same muscles used in boxing. If you get fit running there will be a lot of transfer to boxing. Not with swimming. Swimming is good for recovery and aiding breathing but it's not going to get you in any sort of shape for boxing. Cycling would be far better than swimming as well, not as good as running as you're not on your feet and you don't contract as much muscle (so VO2 will be lower) but still far more beneficial then swimming.

Eh, please sign up to sherdog and explain this to the fucking morons on the S+C section.

scrap · 02-08-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BUMPY KNUCKLES

You must of looked a right nutcase over the years with your of training routines scrap

Running with Parachutes attached to the Head, was thought strange by some

.

thejokerswild · 02-08-2013, 05:00 PM

I wonder how much it affects your breathing technique, oxygen deprivation and lung capacity for boxing. I've heard of chronic asthmatics turn to champion swimmers because of training in the pool.

Either way, having been casual surfing a swimming since I a kid I wouldn't swap it for running unless you have concrete evidence and dedicated plan.

viru§™ · 02-08-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

The problem with swimming a lot is that you may loose hand speed. It develops different muscle types. Look at bodies of swimmers and boxers, there are quite some differences.
You gotta compensate that somehow.

You've got some reading to do.

11-26-2012, 10:17 PM	#1
fistycuffs Journeyman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 57 vCash: 500	Swimming for boxing. Hello all I have been swimming laps in order to help my boxing cardio. Does anyone have any advice on how to swim for boxing?? I know the Klitschko bros do Alot of swimming, so I would like to know more.
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11-27-2012, 05:11 AM	#2
NVSemin Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 171 vCash: 500	Re: Swimming for boxing. The problem with swimming a lot is that you may loose hand speed. It develops different muscle types. Look at bodies of swimmers and boxers, there are quite some differences. You gotta compensate that somehow. Yea, for cardio it is quite ok, also helps avoid knee problems from running
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11-27-2012, 07:00 AM	#3
captain hook Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: ZGB - Croatia Posts: 375 vCash: 3958	Re: Swimming for boxing. why would you loose hand speed? its not that you are lifting something or that your muscles are getting heavier. even some boxers are shadow boxing in pool because of water resistance to improve their hand speed.. (i think its james toney but not sure, too lazy to search ) swimming is great to improve cardio and it also strengthens whole body try pyramid tehnic: 400m any tempo 200m (25m sprint, 25m any tempo and style, its like rest) 100m fastest you can 200m same as 200 above 400m same as 400 above
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dealt_with Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3,695 vCash: 500	Re: Swimming for boxing. You're not gonna lose hand speed but it's about as un-sports specific as you can get, it's not going to do much at all for your boxing fitness.
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fire50 newbie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 6 vCash: 500	Re: Swimming for boxing. Yes this is good one exercise, because in swimming you do exercise of how to swim and you make good exercise for of your hand practice....
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Mighty_Fighter mightyfighter.com Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Ring Posts: 84 vCash: 500	Re: Swimming for boxing. I've seen a picture of Klitschko shadow boxing under water. Swimming is an all-round body workout and really helps your breathing technique. A lot of boxers swim for their training. Amir Khan, Juan Diaz, Klitschkos, Pacquiao tried it...
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scrap Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,301 vCash: 1000	Re: Swimming for boxing. Running in water is good, but make sure everything is submerged. We use to wear Snorkels, strapped to the forehead, to stop damaging the upper vertabrae.
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thejokerswild P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 18,179 vCash: 75	Re: Swimming for boxing. I wonder how much it affects your breathing technique, oxygen deprivation and lung capacity for boxing. I've heard of chronic asthmatics turn to champion swimmers because of training in the pool. Either way, having been casual surfing a swimming since I a kid I wouldn't swap it for running unless you have concrete evidence and dedicated plan.
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