Who do people insist Judah should have had a KD on Mayweather?

[Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Delroc

landed a punch, dude went down.

Thats a knockdown.

This. Clearly a knockdown.

[Outboxer]

Originally Posted by WiDDoW_MaKeR

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Floyd was hurt much worse against Chop Chop. It happens, and it's going to be ok.

I've always been surprised that he didn't go down from that shot. He got hit at the worst possible time with a completely flush hook. He momentarily loses his legs and wobbles, but he recovers very quickly.

[Vidic]

Originally Posted by Outboxer

I've always been surprised that he didn't go down from that shot. He got hit at the worst possible time with a completely flush hook. He momentarily loses his legs and wobbles, but he recovers very quickly.

Good chin.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Originally Posted by Vidic

Good chin.

Getting hurt and recovering fast has nothing to do with a good chin. Getting cracked and NOT getting hurt would indicate a good chin. What Floyd showed their was a great recovery time... which has much more to do with his great conditioning and stamina.

I'm not saying that Floyd has a bad chin, of course he doesn't. That would have came out by now, even though he doesn't get hit flush often. However, Floyd's conditioning and stamina are what gives him a quick recovery time when he his hurt.

BTW... are you going to keep ignoring the fact that Zab and Mayweather's feet didn't even touch?

[Emeritus]

It looks Like a legit knock down to me.

But who knows unless you were actually ring side it is pretty difficult to tell otherwise IMHO.

[Vidic]

Nah they do touch.

Floyd got his foot trapped by Zabs so couldn't pull it back

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I'd say it's good chin if you are able to take a shot that probably should put you down and only get stunned for a few seconds

[willcross]

You have to ask yourself, if judah blocked instead of throwing the hook, would Floyd have fell over and used his glove to catch himself?

If you believe he would have still fell, then it's not a knockdown.

If you believe he would not have fallen without the punch, then it is a knockdown.

[Bogotazo]

Originally Posted by Vidic

Nah they do touch.

Floyd got his foot trapped by Zabs so couldn't pull it back

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I'd say it's good chin if you are able to take a shot that probably should put you down and only get stunned for a few seconds

How does his foot get stuck? How do you see that? His lead foot doesn't move until his back foot does after getting knocked off balance, and at that point, Judah's already moved out the way.

[doylexxx]

floy got hsi foot on the outside of Zab and had the advantage he was supposed to to that unlucky for him zab punched him

[VBOX]

Mayweather lunges forward with all of his weight on his front foot, it is not even possible for him to pull it back. So you are right in that he couldn't, but it had nothing to do with Zab's foot.

Verdict - knockdown.

This isn't even a diss towards Mayweather, more just giving credit to Judah.

[Divi253]

It was a knockdown, since Judah punched him.. If he would have gone down without Judah's punch it wouldn't be, but I don't think that would have happened..

[timeout]

Originally Posted by Delroc

landed a punch, dude went down.

Thats a knockdown.

this x2.

its only not a knocked down if you got flomo balls stuffed up ya ass like vidic.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Originally Posted by Vidic

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I mean, the fact that both fighters stumble off balance in opposite directions is a pretty definitive conclusion as to whether there was sufficient contact with eachothers feet, no?

Obviously Zab did land a very nice hook at the same time, but it seemed much more the footwork issue, with Floyd getting his lead foot behind Zabs, and not being able to pull it away to regain balance (which was pretty off with this shot anyway) on his right side and stumbling over

Zab was also off balance for a second or two afterward but he was in a much better position to regain it

The ref was correct to call it a slip imo

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You are proving yourself wrong here. Their legs do not tangle. Judah has his foot down... Mayweather steps in and drives with his right... Judah counters with his right hook... Judah then steps away before Mayweather is even moving that lead foot back. The picture that you show is when Judah had his leg bent, foot in the air, already backing out and shifting off to the side. That isn't Judah stepping on his foot... the video clearly shows that he simply moved his foot out of there. They didn't tangle... Judah never stepped down anywhere near Floyd's foot. Zab was pivoting on his right heel as he threw that hook... you can tell it isn't contacting Floyd's foot when he slightly pivots... then he moves it.

The feet had absolutely nothing to do with anything.
This video clearly shows that...
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[pejevan]

Was he knocked down when his gloves touched the floor or was he simply floored?

That is a question hard to answer. You should ask the idiot - in - residence Michiganwarrior for clarification.

[wordisbond]

Punch clearly landed. Anyone that understands the rules of boxing knows that's a knockdown.