does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froch?

Logan_87 · 11-28-2012, 06:39 AM

i dunno but it's just his last opponent had a great chin and groves dismantled him. he also dismantled smith worse than degale did. it's just that everyone he lands a big shot on seems to go to pieces. whereas froch is heavy handed but is more of a combination "puncher" when he gets his opponent in trouble. kind of like when he troubled bute in the last round and used a combination of big punches to finish him, whereas groves usually steps back and looks for his big shots more cautiously.

Taylor2010 · 11-28-2012, 06:48 AM

yeah possibly.

Wouldnt say Groves is so cautious though. He seems to load up and leave himself open but gets a lot of one punch power as a result, whereas Froch hits hard but punches in bunches. In the Bute fight Rob McCracken said that Froch had been training more for speed than big single shots

bruthead · 11-28-2012, 07:18 AM

Froch has never hit anyone as hard as Groves hit Smith.

boxfanlut · 11-28-2012, 07:18 AM

Hard to say based on resume so far but groves looks the bigger puncher

boxfanlut · 11-28-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bruthead

Froch has never hit anyone as hard as Groves hit Smith.

Llanlad · 11-28-2012, 07:27 AM

How long will it be before we see a Groves v Froch bout ?

Logan_87 · 11-28-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bruthead

Froch has never hit anyone as hard as Groves hit Smith.

to be fair, it wasn't even a full on hit - but still put smith on queer street. smith totally lost his legs.

Logan_87 · 11-28-2012, 07:32 AM

this was a total annihilation of a solid fighter with a mexican chin.

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knotty150 · 11-28-2012, 07:35 AM

I think it's perhaps related to the level of opposition that Groves may appear to be the bigger puncher but I don't think it's necessarily true. It's my personal belief that Froch is p4p one of the biggest punchers in the sport right now; everyone he connects with he seems to put on queer street. I reckon Froch has a big year ahead of him in 2013 and I reckon we'll be seeing him KO the likes of Bute/Kessler in rematches.

Will · 11-28-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bruthead

Froch has never hit anyone as hard as Groves hit Smith.

Brian Magee?

SkillspayBills · 11-28-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan_87

this was a total annihilation of a solid fighter with a mexican chin.

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I'm pretty sure Sierra had been stopped three times previously. Wouldn't say he had the famed Mexican chin.

burzumboy · 11-28-2012, 08:26 AM

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Brian Magee?

That's the fight i'd suggest to disprove this. Groves has some true power no doubt but until he's on the same level as Froch and fighting people of the same quality as Froch has fought it'll be a bit of an unknown quantity. The Glen Johnson fight is a good measuring stick for it though, and whilst i don't expect Groves to stop Johnson, if he did that'd be a great scalp to support such that belief.

pathmanc1986 · 11-28-2012, 08:27 AM

On a one off right hand straight down the middle?

I guess Groves might hit harder. But boxing lasts rounds and minutes, Froch has strong punches from random angles for 12 rounds, so its all relative.

Will · 11-28-2012, 08:43 AM

Groves is more of a pure puncher and has excellent timing.

Froch is just very heavy handed!!!

smegmaa · 11-28-2012, 08:48 AM

On one punch power probably Groves edges it but Froch hits harder in combinations

11-28-2012, 06:39 AM	#1
Logan_87 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 194 vCash: 500	does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froch? i dunno but it's just his last opponent had a great chin and groves dismantled him. he also dismantled smith worse than degale did. it's just that everyone he lands a big shot on seems to go to pieces. whereas froch is heavy handed but is more of a combination "puncher" when he gets his opponent in trouble. kind of like when he troubled bute in the last round and used a combination of big punches to finish him, whereas groves usually steps back and looks for his big shots more cautiously.
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11-28-2012, 06:48 AM	#2
Taylor2010 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: UK Posts: 291 vCash: 150	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc yeah possibly. Wouldnt say Groves is so cautious though. He seems to load up and leave himself open but gets a lot of one punch power as a result, whereas Froch hits hard but punches in bunches. In the Bute fight Rob McCracken said that Froch had been training more for speed than big single shots
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11-28-2012, 07:18 AM	#3
bruthead REAL TALK ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Athens, Rome, London Posts: 1,172 vCash: 1000	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc Froch has never hit anyone as hard as Groves hit Smith.
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11-28-2012, 07:18 AM	#4
boxfanlut Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 747 vCash: 500	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc Hard to say based on resume so far but groves looks the bigger puncher
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11-28-2012, 07:27 AM	#6
Llanlad Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 279 vCash: 500	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc How long will it be before we see a Groves v Froch bout ?
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Logan_87 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 194 vCash: 500	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc this was a total annihilation of a solid fighter with a mexican chin. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Last edited by Logan_87; 11-28-2012 at 08:14 AM.
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11-28-2012, 07:35 AM	#9
knotty150 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stafford, England Posts: 565 vCash: 826	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc I think it's perhaps related to the level of opposition that Groves may appear to be the bigger puncher but I don't think it's necessarily true. It's my personal belief that Froch is p4p one of the biggest punchers in the sport right now; everyone he connects with he seems to put on queer street. I reckon Froch has a big year ahead of him in 2013 and I reckon we'll be seeing him KO the likes of Bute/Kessler in rematches.
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11-28-2012, 08:27 AM	#13
pathmanc1986 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,150 vCash: 1000	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc On a one off right hand straight down the middle? I guess Groves might hit harder. But boxing lasts rounds and minutes, Froch has strong punches from random angles for 12 rounds, so its all relative.
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11-28-2012, 08:43 AM	#14
Will Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,197 vCash: 75	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc Groves is more of a pure puncher and has excellent timing. Froch is just very heavy handed!!!
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11-28-2012, 08:48 AM	#15
smegmaa Undefeated Champ ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Chester Posts: 1,466 vCash: 500	Re: does anyone else think that groves might actually hit as hard or harder than froc On one punch power probably Groves edges it but Froch hits harder in combinations
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