Old school training routines seem to be the simplest and most effective!

[Brand NOOBian]

If I have problems with my teeth, I'll go to a dentist. If I have problems with my health, I'll go to a doctor. Similarly, if I want to improve my boxing skills, I'll talk to my boxing coaches. If I want to improve strength and conditioning, I'd prefer talking to a qualified strength and conditioning coach. I don't see the point in this argument.

[pecho26]

Originally Posted by ROACH

Personally, I'd rather get my information from a 70 year old former inmate that has full function of his body and is extremelly strong, especially for his age, than an S & C guy who would be the first guy to get anally penetrated without his joint dehabilitating weights.

Seek psychiatric help.ASAP.
Only information you cant get from guys that were in jail is how to shank someone in showeres.But hey...each to our own....

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by Brand NOOBian

If I have problems with my teeth, I'll go to a dentist. If I have problems with my health, I'll go to a doctor. Similarly, if I want to improve my boxing skills, I'll talk to my boxing coaches. If I want to improve strength and conditioning, I'd prefer talking to a qualified strength and conditioning coach. I don't see the point in this argument.

Here lies the problem. He has no argument.

He's said strength and conditioning coaches aren't needed then gone on to say they can be an asset.

He's trolling or retarded.

[scrap]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Here lies the problem. He has no argument.

He's said strength and conditioning coaches aren't needed then gone on to say they can be an asset.

He's trolling or retarded.

Think its more,neither The coach or the S/C guy think neither know what they are doing. Mostly neither do .

[dempsey1234]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Here lies the problem. He has no argument.

He's said strength and conditioning coaches aren't needed then gone on to say they can be an asset.

He's trolling or retarded.

You still with this dang, you need a life.

Your answers:
Both
Neither
Here's some cartoons for you

[dempsey1234]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Here lies the problem. He has no argument.

He's said strength and conditioning coaches aren't needed then gone on to say they can be an asset.

He's trolling or retarded.

For all my Yapper fan's, here is when S&C is an asset, for an old guy who needs the edge he lost with his youth and when it's not when you have a beginner, who any average coach can get the fighter ready for an amateur fight or a four rdr. I do this not for you yappers, but cos there may be someone out trying to find his way. Here 'tis

Alex Ariza on JMM's conditioning
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Quote:
"Memo is brilliant — I don't have any suspicions,'' Ariza told USA TODAY Sports. "When you get someone like that who knows the science of exercise and nutrition . . . well, we saw a whole different fighter when he fought Manny last time.
"It's not because (trainer) Nacho Beristain is teaching (Marquez) something new. It is because Memo now has Marquez's confidence. He has done things to his body. He has taken a good fighter at 39 and completely evolved him. Now I've got a guy (Hernandez) teaching the science as well — we're on an even plane. That's my fear.''

Finally someone giving credit where it's due. Hernandez has Marquez using training methods that he never has before. He's gone from throwing rocks and drinking his piss to modern scientific training methods and nutrition. Maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with his slight increase in bulk. He's done a lot of weight training for this fight. Many here seem to forget Hernandez was and is an excellent strenght and conditioning coach who's worked with Olympic athletes before the PED mess he got himself into. He's had the training, he has the knowledge. A man's previous actions don't define how he conducts himself presently.
Ariza is a man who's inside the sport, who actually knows what he's talking about. As opposed the myriad of dumb fucks we have here talking shit about things they have no clue on. Shit is tiring. Remember, Ariza is the man who ripped Bob Arum to shreds in many articles, on twitter. He's never been afraid to say what he thinks. He doesn't think JMM is juicing. That should be enough for anyone here.

This is from another thread, so my favorite yappers, get to yappin'


and now something for the feebleminded yappers, cartoon time.

[viru§™]

Still going with his pointless blabbering...

[dempsey1234]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Still going with his pointless blabbering...

Clever

[dempsey1234]

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[viru§™]

Originally Posted by dempsey1234

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Enjoy

Very clever.

So you're admitting to being an asshole?

[dempsey1234]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Very clever.

So you're admitting to being an asshole?

BRILLIANT, SIMPLY BRILLIANT

[pecho26]

Originally Posted by dempsey1234

For all my Yapper fan's, here is when S&C is an asset, for an old guy who needs the edge he lost with his youth and when it's not when you have a beginner, who any average coach can get the fighter ready for an amateur fight or a four rdr. I do this not for you yappers, but cos there may be someone out trying to find his way. Here 'tis

Alex Ariza on JMM's conditioning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
"Memo is brilliant — I don't have any suspicions,'' Ariza told USA TODAY Sports. "When you get someone like that who knows the science of exercise and nutrition . . . well, we saw a whole different fighter when he fought Manny last time.
"It's not because (trainer) Nacho Beristain is teaching (Marquez) something new. It is because Memo now has Marquez's confidence. He has done things to his body. He has taken a good fighter at 39 and completely evolved him. Now I've got a guy (Hernandez) teaching the science as well — we're on an even plane. That's my fear.''

Finally someone giving credit where it's due. Hernandez has Marquez using training methods that he never has before. He's gone from throwing rocks and drinking his piss to modern scientific training methods and nutrition. Maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with his slight increase in bulk. He's done a lot of weight training for this fight. Many here seem to forget Hernandez was and is an excellent strenght and conditioning coach who's worked with Olympic athletes before the PED mess he got himself into. He's had the training, he has the knowledge. A man's previous actions don't define how he conducts himself presently.
Ariza is a man who's inside the sport, who actually knows what he's talking about. As opposed the myriad of dumb fucks we have here talking shit about things they have no clue on. Shit is tiring. Remember, Ariza is the man who ripped Bob Arum to shreds in many articles, on twitter. He's never been afraid to say what he thinks. He doesn't think JMM is juicing. That should be enough for anyone here.

This is from another thread, so my favorite yappers, get to yappin'


and now something for the feebleminded yappers, cartoon time.

Funny.Now you are saying how ariza knows what he is saying and he is the man,and few pages back you riped him into shreds.Sure.

[dempsey1234]

Originally Posted by pecho26

Funny.Now you are saying how ariza knows what he is saying and he is the man,and few pages back you riped him into shreds.Sure.

Ariza is a POS, FYI, that was a quote from another thread. The only thing I agreed with was that a 39yr old needs that extra push to get him ready. The rest of that quote was a guy loving on Ariza.
I am glad you carefully read my posts. This is my opinion, your opinion might be totally opposite of mine, I respect that.
The title of this thread is: Old school training routines seem to be the simplest and most effective!" that is a statement, not a fact, if you want to you can voice your opinion based on that statement. I have no problem going back and forth on this. There seems to be almost 2500 hits on this thread, so people are interested in the topic, but then yappers come on yapping away like little dogs yapping away just making noises.
Some people unlike some are trying to find some information they could use. The yappers nitpick, like this response, "Funny.Now you are saying how ariza knows what he is saying and he is the man,and few pages back you riped him into shreds.Sure.". Also, I fully agree with this thread. None of the yappers offer anything but trying to piss people off. So piss away.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by dempsey1234

None of the yappers offer anything but trying to piss people off. So piss away.

You're doing a great job. Good on you

Nobody is going to find any good information from this thread, it's entirely a troll thread from beginning to end.

Some people train entirely "old school" and they respond well to that. Others enjoy using "new school" techniques and respond well to that. Some people like to employ a strength and conditioning coach to help them with their strength and conditioning, others can't afford or plain don't want/need one. I don't see what you are still trying to argue.

Explain again exactly where I'm wrong because it seems to be at the point now where you don't actually have an argument to present.

I know you'll just play this off as the "yappers" or some silly emotions because, again, you don't have an argument, but you could at least try this time.

[pecho26]

Originally Posted by dempsey1234

Ariza is a POS, FYI, that was a quote from another thread. The only thing I agreed with was that a 39yr old needs that extra push to get him ready. The rest of that quote was a guy loving on Ariza.
I am glad you carefully read my posts. This is my opinion, your opinion might be totally opposite of mine, I respect that.
The title of this thread is: Old school training routines seem to be the simplest and most effective!" that is a statement, not a fact, if you want to you can voice your opinion based on that statement. I have no problem going back and forth on this. There seems to be almost 2500 hits on this thread, so people are interested in the topic, but then yappers come on yapping away like little dogs yapping away just making noises.
Some people unlike some are trying to find some information they could use. The yappers nitpick, like this response, "Funny.Now you are saying how ariza knows what he is saying and he is the man,and few pages back you riped him into shreds.Sure.". Also, I fully agree with this thread. None of the yappers offer anything but trying to piss people off. So piss away.

I am not some fuck up who doesnt read posts.But i cannot understand you at all,you really dont make any sense. to me And you cant go back and forth with anybody cause when someone writes a good ammount of information you reply with emoticons.