boxing
Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-28-2012, 05:53 PM   #16
LittleRed
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Yoknapatawpha
Posts: 3,481
vCash: 475
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

That's some Star Wars **** there.
LittleRed is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 11-28-2012, 06:35 PM   #17
OvidsExile
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,256
vCash: 500
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Here's from Lufcrazy's heavyweight thread a year ago.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lufcrazy View Post
A while ago I started a thread about this and have only just got round to finishing it.

This is just against opponents who have featured in the top 10 at one point NOT NECESSARILY AT THE TIME OF THE FIGHT.

I've done it for every HW who might have been considered the number 1 at some point so it isn't just lineal champions. I've also added amendments where I've watched a fight and disagreed with the result.

***

Wladimir Klitschko 17-2-0 (13)

Jackson, Barret, Byrd (x2), Jefferson, Mercer, McCline, Sanders, Brewster (x2), Peter (x2), Brock, Ibragimov, Thompson, Rahman, Chagaev, Chambers, Haye (16.)

+Chris Byrd 10-4-1 (3)

Jackson, Butler, Cooper, Ibeabuchi, Thunder, Ribalta, V Klitschko, W Klitschko (x2), Tua, Holyfield, Oquendo, Golota, McCline, Povetkin (14)

Vitali Klitschko 13-2-0 (11)

Ribalta, Hide, Byrd, Norris, Donald, Lewis, Johnson, Sanders, Williams, Peter, Gomez, Arreola, Johnson, Briggs, Adamek (15)

Hasim Rahman 4-7-2 (2)

Berbick, Tua (x2), Maskaev (x2), Sanders, Lewis (x2), Holyfield, Ruiz, Barret, Toney, W. Klitschko (9)

Lennox Lewis 21-2-1 (16) *22-2-0 (16)

Mason, Weaver, Biggs, Ocasio, Ruddock, Tucker, Bruno, Jackson, McCall (x2), Butler, Morrison, Mercer, Akinwande, Golota, Briggs, Holyfield (x2)*, Grant, Tua, Rahman (x2), Tyson, V. Klitschko (21)

Shannon Briggs 4-4-1 (3) *3-5-1 (3)

Ellis, Foreman*, Lewis, Botha, McCline, Mercer, Lyakhovic, Ibragimov, V. Klitschko (9)

Michael Moorer 4-3-0 (2)

Cooper, Smith, Holyfield (x2), Foreman, Schulz, Botha, Tua (7)

Rid**** Bowe 13-1-0 (11)

Butler, Thomas, Cooper, Biggs, Tubbs, Seldon, Holyfield (x3), Dokes, Ferguson, Hide, Gonzalez, Golota (x2) (12)

Evander Holyfield 18-9-2 (9) *19-9-0 (9)

Tillis, Thomas, Dokes, Rodrigues, Stewart (x2), Douglas, Foreman, Cooper, Holmes, Bowe (x3), Moorer (x2), Mercer, Tyson (x2), Lewis (x2)*, Ruiz (x3)**, Rahman, Byrd, Toney, Donald, Oquendo, Ibragimov, Valuev* (22)

Buster Douglas 5-4-0 (1)

Bey, Cobb, Ferguson, Page, Tucker, Berbick, McCall, Tyson, Holyfield, (8.)

Mike Tyson 18-5-0 (14) *20-5-0 (16)

Tillis, Berbick, Smith, Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Frazier, Ribalta, Holmes, Tubbs, M.Spinks, Bruno (x2), Stewart, Williams, Douglas, Ruddock (x2), Seldon, Holyfield (x2), Lewis, Williams (*Norris, Golota) (20) *(22)

Michael Spinks 3-1-0 (1) *2-2-0 (1)

Holmes (x2)*, ****ey, Tyson (3)

Larry Holmes 24-5-0 (17) *26-3-0 (17)

Shavers(x2), Norton, Avengelisto, Occasio, Zanon, Jones, LeDoux, Ali, Berbick, L.Spinks, Snipes, ****ey, Cobb, Witherspoon, Smith (x2), Bey, Williams, Ribalta, Frazier, M.Spinks (x2)*, Tyson, Mercer, Holyfield, McCall*, Weaver (x2) (25)

Leon Spinks 3-4-1 (2)

LeDoux, Ali (x2), Coatzee, Evangelista, Mercado, Holmes, Cobb (7)

+Ken Norton 10-7-1 (6) *11-6-1 (6)

Garcia (x2), Clarke, Ali (x3)*, Foreman, Kirkman, Quarry, Middleton, Bobick, Zanon, Young, Holmes, Shavers, LeDoux, Cobb, ****ey (15)

George Foreman 15-5-0 (13) *16-4-0 (13)

Kirkman, Chuvalo, Peralta (x2), Frazier (x2), Norton, Ali, Lyle, LeDoux, Young, Cooper, ****ey, Rodrigues, Holyfield, Ellis, Morrison, Moorer, Schulz, Briggs* (18.)

Joe Frazier 14-4-0 (9)

Bonavena (x2), Machen, Daniels, Jones, Chuvalo, Ramos, Quarry (x2), Ellis (x2) , Ali (x3), Foreman (x2), Bugner, Mathis (12)

Muhammed Ali 43-5-0 (26) *42-6-0 (26)

Johnson, Miteff, Besmanoff, Logan, Daniels, Avorante, Powell, Moore, Jones, Cooper (x2), Liston (x2), Patterson (x2), Chuvalo (x2), London, Mildenberger, Williams, Terrell, Folley, Quarry (x2), Bonavena, Frazier(x3), Mathis, Blin, Lewis Ellis, Foster, Bugner (x2), Norton (x3)*, Foreman, Wepner, Lyle, Young, Evangelista, Shavers, Spinks (x2), Holmes, Berbick (37)
Quote:
Originally Posted by lufcrazy View Post
Sonny Liston 17-3-0 (14)

Summerlin (x2), Bethea, Hunter, DeJohn, Williams (x2), Valdes, Besmanoff, Harris, Folley, Machen, Patterson (x2), Ali (x2), Rischer, Lincoln, Wepner, Martin (16)

Ingo Johanneson 9-2-0 (7)

Hoff, Cavicci, Cooper, Erskine, Neuhaus, Machen, Patterson (x3), Richardson, London (9)

Floyd Patterson 11-7-1 (8.)

Slade, Jackson (x2), Moore, Harris, London, Johanneson (x3), Liston (x2), Machen, Chuvalo, Ali (x2), Cooper, Quarry (x2), Ellis, Bonavena (14)


+Archie Moore 13-3-1 (7)

Payne, Muscato, Bivins, Sys, Slade, Dunlop (x2), Henry, Valdes (x2), Baker, Marciano, Patterson, Besmanoff (x2), Lavorante, Ali (14)

Rocky Marciano 16-0-0 (14)

Muscato, Reynold, Shkor, La Starza (x2), Layne, Beshore, Louis, Savold, Matthews, Walcott (x2), Charles (x2), ****ell, Moore (13)

Joe Walcott 16-10-0 (6)

Ray (x3), Simon, Baksi, Murray, Bivins, Oma, Gomez, Maxim (x3), Hoff, Louis (x2), Charles (x4), Agramonte, Johnson, Sheppard Layne, Marciano (x2) (16)

Ezzard Charles 26-12-0 (11)

Maxim (x5), Bivins (x4), Ray (x2), Baksi, Walcott (x4), Valentino, Beshore, Louis, Oma, Layne (x3), Kahut, Brion, Harrison, Valdes, Wallace, Sattersfield, Marciano (x2), Holman (x2), Jackson (x2), Young Johnson, Bethea, McMurty, Richardson, Logan (24)


Jimmy Bivins 21-11-1 (6)

Musto, Bettina (x3), Pastor (x2), Muscato, Mauriello (x2), Savold, Valentino (x2), Murray (x5), Walker, Scott, Sheppard (x3), Walcott, Agramonte, Thompson, Payne, Henry (x2), Louis, Baker, Wallace, Harrison (x2) (20)

Joe Louis 50-3-0 (38.)

Everett, Sykes, Toles, Barry, Pareda, Massare, McCoy, Roper, Ramage (x2), Perroni, Brown (x2), Reztlaff, Carnera, Levinski, Baer, Uzcudun, Schmelling (x2), Sharkey, Attore, Pastor (x2), Braddock, Farr, Mann, Galento, Paycheck, Godoy (x2), Burman, Dorazio, Simon (x2), Musto, Baer (x2), Conn (x2), Nova, Mauriello, Walcott (x2), Charles, Brion (x2), Beshore, Agoramante (x2), Savold, Bivins, Marciano (42)

James Braddock 3-5-0 (0)

Rosenbloom, Schaaf, Ettore, Reztlaff, Lasky, Baer, Louis, Farr (8.)


Max Baer 10-9-0 (7)

Brown, Schaaf (x2), Heeney (x2), Loughran, Risko (x2), Uzcudun, Levinski (x3), Griffiths, Schmelling, Carnera, Braddock, Louis, Farr (x2), Nova (x2), Galento, Comiskey (16)

Primo Carnera 13-9-0 (6)

Stribling (x2), Godfrey, Maloney (x2) Uzcudun (x2), Gorman, Sharkey (x2), Levinski (x2), Gains, Poreda, Lasky, Schaaf, Loughran, Baer, Louis, Neusel, Haynes (16)


Jack Sharkey 17-12-2 (5) *16-13-2 (5)

Weinert (x2), Johnson, Renault, Rojas, Gorman (x2), Risko (x2), Maloney (x2), Godfrey, Wills, Dempsey, Heeney, Delaney, De Kuh, Stribling, Loughran (x2), Scott, Schmelling (x2)*, Walker, Carnera (x2), Levinski, Winston, Louis (22)

Max Schemlling 9-6-1 (6) *10-5-1 (6)

Gains, Risko, Uzcudun (x3), Sharkey (x2)*, Stribling, Walker, Baer, Hamas (x2), Neusel (x2), Louis (x2) (10)

Gene Tunney 9-0-0 (4)

Weinert (x2), Spalla, Greb, Gibbons, Risko, Dempsey (x2), Heeney (7)

+Wills 33-7-4 (16)

Clark (x8.), Jeanette (x3), Langford (x17), Meehan, McVey (x5), Jim Johnson (x2), Smith, Martin, Norfolk, Firpo, Weinert, F.Johnson, Sharkey, Uzcudun (14)

Dempsey 21-5-3 (13)

J. Flynn (x2), Meehan (x5), Smith (x2), Morris (x3), Brennan (x2), Miske (x3), Pelkey, D. Flynn (x2), Fulton, Levinski, Willard, Carpentier, Gibbons, Firpo, Tunney (x2), Sharkey (16)

Willard 5-3-1 (2)

Pelkey, McCarthy, Smith, Morris, J. Johnson, Moran, Dempsey, F. Johnson, Firpo (9)

+McVey 24-14-11 (9)

Johnson (x3), Carter, Martin (x4), Jeanette (x4), Kubiak, Langford (x15), Jim Johnson (x7), Lang, Pelkey, Wills (x5), Ferguson, Clark (x6) (12)

+Jeanette 23-16-11 (6)

Johnson (x5), Langford (x9), McVey (x4), Ferguson (x4), Kubiak (x4), Clarke (x4), Ross (x2), D Flynn (x2), Sullivan, Jim Johnson (x9), Carpentier, Pelkey, Wills (x3) (13)
Quote:
Originally Posted by lufcrazy View Post
+Langford 48-27-18 (20)

Jeanette (x9), Johnson, Ferguson (x2), Kubiak (x2), J Flynn (x6), Schreck, Ketchel, Jim Johnson (x12), Clarke (x10), Lang, McVey (x15), O’Brien, Ross, D Flynn (x2), Smith (x2), Curran, Wills (x17), Fulton (x2), Meehan, Norfolk. (19)



Johnson 27-5-5 (7)

Choynski, Griffin (x3), Childs (x2), Gardner, Martin (x2), McVey (x3), Ferguson (x4), Hart, Jeanette (x7), Langford, Fitzsimmons, Felix, J. Flynn (x2), Burns, Ross, Kaufman, Ketchel, Jeffries, Jim Johnson, Moran, Willard (21)




Burns 5-2-2 (3)

Hart, Flynn, O’Brien (x2), Lang (x2), J.Johnson, Pelkey, Beckett (7)


Hart 8.-5-3 (3)

Choynski, Carter, Gardner, Ferguson, Ruhlin (x2), J.Johnson, Root, Burns, Schrek (x3), Maher, Twin Sullivan, Ross, Morris (12)

Jeffries 12-1-2 (9)

Griffin (x2), Ruhlin (x2), Choynski, Goddard. Jackson, Sharkey (x2), Fitzsimmons (x2), Munroe, Corbett (x2), Kennedy, J.Johnson (11)

Fitzsimmons 7-6-0 (6) *8-5-0 (8.)

Dooley (x2), Maher, Sharkey (x2)*, Corbett, Jeffries (x2), Dunkhorst, Ruhlin, O’Brien, Johnson, Lang (10)

Corbett 9-4-3 (5)

Donaldson, Burke, Choynski (x3), Kilrain, Burke McCaffrey, Sullivan, Mitchell, Sharkey (x2), Fitzsimmons, McCoy, Jackson, Jeffries (x2) (13)

Peter Jackson 10-3-2 (8.)

Farnam (x2), Lees (x2), Dooley, O’Donnell, Godfrey, McCauliffe, Cardiff, Maher, Smith, Goddard, Corbett, Slavin, Jeffries (13)

Sullivan 11-1-3 (5)

Donaldson, Goss, Burke, Greenfield (x2), Dalton, Ryan (x2), Elliot, Mitchell, Slade, Mcaffrey, Kilrain, Burke, Corbett (13)
OvidsExile is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 06:46 PM   #18
OvidsExile
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,256
vCash: 500
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

It's also worth referencing Lufcrazy's p4p thread from a year ago.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lufcrazy View Post
This is a resume breakdown of the modern p4p kings (considered to be right at the top). I have listed their resume records against boxers who have, at one time or another, been ranked in the divisional top 10 (not necessarily at the time of the fight). I have also added amendments where I have watched a fight and scored it differently.


Pacquiao 19-2-2 (13) *20-2-1 (13)
Chockvivat, Sasakul, Singsurat, Hussein, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Julio, MAB (x2), JMM (x2)*, EM (x3), Larios, Solis, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley (19)

Floyd Mayweather Jr. 19-0-0 (8.)
Hernandez, Manfredy, Vargas, Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo (x2), Sosa, Ndou, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, JMM, Mosley (18.)

Bernard Hopkins 24-4-2 (10) *28-2-0 (10)
Powell, Jones Jr (x2), Aquino, Mercado (x2)*, Lipsey, Council. Jackson, Johnson, Brown, Allen (x2), Echols (x2), Vanderpool, Holmes, Trinidad, Daniels, Joppy, De La Hoya, Eastman, Taylor (x2)*, Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe*, Pavlik, Pascal (x2)*(23)

Shane Mosley 14-7-1 (10) *14-8-0(10)
Holiday, Molina, Lejia, Johnson, Rivera, De La Hoya (x2)* Diaz, Taylor, Forrest (x2), Wright (x2), Vargas (x2), Collazo, Cotto, Mayorga, Margarito, Mayweather, Mora*, Pacman (17)

Oscar De La Hoya 25-6-0 (16) *26-5-0 (16)
J Mayweather, Bredahl, Paez, Molina, Ruelas, Hernandez, Leija, Chavez (x2), Gonzalez, Whittaker, Kamau, Camacho, Rivera, Charpentier, Quartey, Carr, Trinidad*, Coley, Mosley (x2)*, Gatti, Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, Sturm*, Hopkins, Mayorga, Mayweather, Forbes, Pacman (29)

Roy Jones Jr. 29-8-0 (18.)
Vaca, Castro, Wolfe, Hopkins (x2), Malinga, Tate, Toney, Byrd, Pazienza, Thornton. Sosa, Lucas, Brannon, McCallum, Griffin (x2), Hill, Del Vale, Grant, Johnson, Telesco, Harding, Harmon, Gonzalez, Woods, Ruiz, Tarver (x3), Johnson, Trinidad, Calzaghe, Sheika, Lacy, Green, Lebedev (33)

Pernell Whittaker 19-3-1 (5) * 21-2-0 (5)
Mayweather, Santana, Ramirez (x2)*, Haugen, Lomeli, Pendleton, Nelson, Nazario, Jones, Diaz, Paez, Pineda, McGirt (x2), Chavez*, Vasquez, Rodriguez, Rivera (x2), Hurtado, De La Hoya, Trinidad (20)

Julio Cesar Chavez 26-4-2 (14) *26-5-1 (14)
Martinez, Castillo, Mayweather (x2), Rojas, Lockridge, Porte, Cruz, Rosario, Ramirez, Fuentes, Taylor (x2), Duplessis, Smith, Hernandez, Camacho, Haugen, Ali, Whittaker*, Randall (x3), Lopez, Parisi, Kamau, De La Hoya (x2), Gamache, Gonzalez, Tzsyu, Robinson (27)

Iron Mike Tyson 19-5-0 (15) *21-5-0 (17)
Ferguson, Tillis, Berbick, Smith, Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Frazier, Ribalta, Holmes, Tubbs, M.Spinks, Bruno (x2), Williams, Douglas, Ruddock (x2), Seldon, Holyfield (x2), Botha, Lewis, Williams (*Norris, Golota) (21) *(23)

________________________________________________

Notable inclusions:


Juan Manuel Marquez 16-4-1 (9) *18-3-0 (9)
Gervacio, Sanchez, Cotey, Cabrera, Norwood*, Jimenez, Pedan, Medina, Gainer, Salido, Pacman (x2)*, Polo, John*, MAB, Juarez, Casamayor, Diaz (x2), Mayweather, Katsidis (19.)

Joe Calzaghe

Ronald Winky Wright

Felix Trinidad 15-3-0 (11) *14-4-0 (11)
Blocker, Garcia, Camacho, Campas, Carr, Barnes, Pendleton, Waters, Whittaker, De La Hoya*, Reid, Vargas, Joppy, Hopkins, Mayorga, Cherifi, Wright, Jones Jr. (18.)

Kostya Tszyu

Erik Morales

Marco Antonio Barrera

Ricardo Lopez

James Toney

Michael Nunn

Mike McCallum
OvidsExile is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 07:09 PM   #19
lufcrazy
requiescat in pace
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: England, Up North
Posts: 23,048
vCash: 75
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Yeah I had a go at it for a while but hhascup always put me to shame coz he had the monthlys as well.

good to see my work appreciated though, probably a few errors in there coz it's quite tedious work.
lufcrazy is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:35 PM   #20
PhillyPhan69
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salisbury, MD
Posts: 3,881
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleRed View Post
Here you go

Jeff Chandler 8-2-1
Azumah Nelson 15-5-2
Thanks! If you feel up to it would it be possible to check out:

Lupe Pintor
Gaby & Orlando
Happy Lora
just for a Chandler comparrison for me???

Also how about Prince Naseem
PhillyPhan69 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 07:50 AM   #21
Webbiano
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: England
Posts: 2,859
vCash: 500
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Awesome work Luf

Joe Louis at 50-3 is absaloutley outstanding considering he only had the 68 fights. Also when you compare Jack Johnson's record to fellow black fighters of the time like Langford, Jeannette and McVea, he must be applauded. His record is pretty damn consistent for his time

Anyone willing to do this for Kid Gavillan would be appreciated
Webbiano is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:08 AM   #22
McGrain
Diamond Dog
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 38,056
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Ineteresting stuff my dudes.

You'll be regretting not doing it alphabetically in about six pages time though.
McGrain is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:34 AM   #23
LittleRed
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Yoknapatawpha
Posts: 3,481
vCash: 475
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

The Cubans

Jose Napoles 23-4
Kid Gavilan 21-19-1
Luis Manuel Rodriguez 17-8

I regret not doing this.alphabetically.

Good work guys.
LittleRed is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:40 AM   #24
TBooze
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South of London
Posts: 11,019
vCash: 1500
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Some modern little men (the numbers being their record against 'The Ring' top 10 and champions, as well as fellow Hall of Famers).

Carbajal 6-3

Gonzales (Humberto) 2-1

Galaxy 3-0

Harada 7-5
TBooze is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:50 AM   #25
Lester1583
Can you hear this?
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,213
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBooze View Post
Galaxy 30-0

Canto 1-1

Harada 7-5
Oh my god!

Khaosai's dominance is frightening!
Lester1583 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:52 AM   #26
MAG1965
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dallas,Texas.
Posts: 17,399
vCash: 1010
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

nice work everyone.
MAG1965 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 11:30 AM   #27
Hands of Iron
#MSE
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,356
vCash: 75
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

Sugar Ray Robinson first appears in The Ring ratings on March 11, 1941. He debuts at No. 7 in the lightweight division.

1941: Sammy Angott (No. 1 LW) (@135)
1941: Maxie Shapiro (No. 9 LW) (@135)
1941: Fritzie Zivic (No. 1 WW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 in the welterwight ratings after win over Zivic.
1942: Fritzie Zivic (No. 3 WW)
1942: Norman Rubio (No. 9 WW)
1942: Marty Servo (No. 7 WW)
1942: Sammy Angott (World LW Champ) (@ 147)
1942: Tony Motisi (No. 9 WW)
1942: Jake LaMotta (No. 10 MW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 6 MW) - LOSS
1943: Jackie Wilson (No. 2 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 1 MW)
1943: Henry Armstrong (No. 2 WW)
1944: Vic Dellicurti (No. 10 MW)
1945: Tommy Bell (No. 6 WW)
1945: Jake LaMotta (No. 3 MW)
1945: Jose Basora (No. 6 MW) - DRAW
1945: Jimmy McDaniels (No. 6 WW)
1945: Jake LaMotta (No. 1 MW)
1946: Sammy Angott (No. 6 WW)
1946: Joe Curcio (No. 9 WW)
1946: Tommy Bell (No. 2 WW)
-- Wins vacant Welterweight title.
1947: Georgie Abrams (No. 3 MW)
1947: Jimmy Doyle (No. 6 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1948: Bernard Docusen (No. 1 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1948: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
1949: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1949: Steve Belloise (No. 2 MW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 at middleweight after win over Belloise. He still continues to hold the welterweight championship.
1950: George Costner (No. 2 WW)
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 2 MW)
1950: Charley Fusari (No. 5 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title.
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 4 MW)
1951: Jake LaMotta (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
-- Robinson vacates welterweight title after win over LaMotta.
1951: Randy Turpin (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
-- Loses Middleweight title
1951: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1952: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 5 MW)
-- Defends Middleweight title
1952: Rocky Graziano (No. 9 MW)
-- Defends Middleweight title
1952: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires for 30 months after loss to Maxim.
1955: Rocky Castellani (No. 2 MW)
1955: Carl "Bobo" Olson (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1956: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 1 MW)
-- Defends Middleweight title
1957: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
-- Loses Middleweight title
1957: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1957: Carmen Basilio (World WW Champion) (@160)
-- Loses Middleweight title
1958: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1959: No fights vs. top contenders
1960: Paul Pender (No. 8 MW) - LOSS
-- Loses Middleweight title
1960: Paul Pender (World MW Champion) - LOSS
1960: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - DRAW (Not really)
1961: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1961: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW)
1962: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1962: Terry Downes (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1963: Ralph Dupas (No. 3 WW) (@160)
1963: Joey Giardello (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1964: No fights vs. top 10 contenders
1965: Stan Harrington (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1965: Joey Archer (No. 4 MW) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires after loss to Archer.
Hands of Iron is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 11:31 AM   #28
Hands of Iron
#MSE
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,356
vCash: 75
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

HENRY ARMSTRONG's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

1934: Baby Arizmendi (No. 1 FW) - LOSS
-- Despite loss, Armstrong debuts in The Ring ratings dated November 17 At No. 8 Featherweight.
1934: Joe Conde (No. 6 FW)
1935: Baby Arizmendi (No. 1 FW) - LOSS
1935: Midget Wolgast (No. 5 FW)
-- Frankie Covelli was not rated in top 10 at time of fight with Armstrong, but rated shortly before and again a few months after fight).
1936: Baby Arizmendi (No. 2 FW)
1936: Juan Zurita (No. 9 FW)
1936: Mike Belloise (No. 2 FW)
1936: Tony Chavez (No. 7 FW) - LOSS (DQ)
1937: Tony Chavez (No. 5 FW)
1937: Mike Belloise (No. 2 FW)
1937: Aldo Spoldi (No. 7 LW)
1937: Pete DeGrasse (No. 10 LW)
-- Armstrong debuts at No. 2 in Lightweight Ratings dated July 10.
1937: Petey Sarron (World FW Champion)
1937: Billy Beauhuld (No. 2 LW)
1937: Tony Chavez (No. 6 FW)
1938: Everett Rightmire (No. 3 FW)
1938: Barney Ross (World WW Champion)
1938: Lou Ambers (World LW Champion)
1938: Ceferino Garcia (No. 1 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Baby Arizmendi (No. 4 LW) (both @135)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Davey Day (No. 3 LW) (both @135)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Ernie Roderick (No. 2 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Lou Ambers (No. 1 LW) - LOSS
-- Loses Lightweight title
-- Pedro Montanez (HOF) enters Ratings after fight with Armstrong
1940: Ceferino Garcia (No. 1 MW) - DRAW (Robbery)
1940: Paul Junior (No. 7 LW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1940: Lew Jenkins (World LW Champion) [non-title fight]
1940: Fritzie Zivic (No. 3 WW) - LOSS
-- Loses Welterweight Title
1941: Fritzie Zivic (World WW Champion) - LOSS
-- Armstrong exits Ring ratings after announcing retirement.
1942: Armstrong re-enters Ring ratings 13 August, Welterweight division)
1942: Juan Zurita (No. 4 LW)
1942: Fritzie Zivic (No. 2 WW)
1943: Willie Joyce (No. 5 LW) - LOSS
1943: Beau Jack (No. 1 LW) - LOSS
1943: Sammy Angott (No. 2 LW)
1943: Willie Joyce (No. 5 LW)
1943: Jimmy Garrison (No. 7 WW)
1943: Sugar Ray Robinson (No. 1 WW) - LOSS
1944: Ralph Zanelli (No. 5 WW)
1944: Ralph Zanelli (No. 9 WW
1944: Willie Joyce (No. 6 LW) - LOSS
1944: John Thomas (No. 8 LW) - LOSS
1944: Willie Joyce (No. 9 LW)
1945: Chester Slider (No. 7 WW) - LOSS
Hands of Iron is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 11:34 AM   #29
Flea Man
มวยสากล
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: @ferociousflea
Posts: 40,451
vCash: 75
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Chang loses out here as light fly was bracketed with fly for years so a lot of guys that would've been top ten @ 108 did not make top ten for the double division.
Flea Man is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 12:09 PM   #30
Hands of Iron
#MSE
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,356
vCash: 75
Default Re: Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

CHARLEY BURLEY's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

1938: Fritzie Zivic (No. 9 WW)
-- Burley debuts at No. 9 in Ring's Welterweight ratings dated July 10.
1939: Jimmy Leto (No. 10 WW) - LOSS
1939: Fritzie Zivic (No. 1 WW)
1939: Jimmy Leto (No. 3 WW)
1940:
-- Burley exits welterweight ratings dated March 11.
-- Burley enters at No. 10 in middleweight ratings dated May 12.
-- Burley exits middleweight ratings dated June 12.
-- Burley re-enters welterweight ratings dated July 12.
1940: Georgie Abrams (No. 6 MW) - DRAW
1940: Jimmy Bivins (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1941: Antonio Fernandez (No. 8 MW)
1942: Shorty Hogue (No. 7 MW)
1942: Holman Williams (No. 6 WW)
1942: Ezzard Charles (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1942: Holman Williams (No. 6 MW)
1942: Ezzard Charles (No. 3 MW)- LOSS
1942: Holman Williams (No. 9 MW)
-- Burley re-enters middlewight ratings dated August 13.
-- Burley exits middleweight ratings dated November 10, after loss to Williams (not rated), who re-enters.
1943:
-- Burley re-enters middleweight ratings dated January 12.
1943: Jack Chase (No. 8 MW)
1943: Cocoa Kid (No. 4 WW) - DRAW
1943: Holman Williams (No. 5 MW) - No Contest
1944: No rated opponents.
1945: Joe Carter (No. 3 MW)
1945: Holman Williams (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1945: Oakland Billy Smith (No. 9 LHW)
1946: Oakland Billy Smith (No. 3 LHW)
1946: Bert Lytell (No. 6 MW)
1947: Bert Lytell (No. 5 MW) - LOSS
1948: Charley "Doc" Williams (No. 5 LHW) - LOSS
Hands of Iron is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2015