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Old 11-29-2012, 06:56 PM   #106
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And you call yourself a boxing fan? Yeah its really funny. You know what would be hilarious? If Arum died while you were blowing him and then you choked to death on his rigormortis ****.

Fake as fan. I hope Pavlik goes on another drunken bender a week before the Ward fight and wraps his car around a telephone pole at high speed.

THAT would be funny.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:58 PM   #107
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So, Oscar makes an offer on a fighter that Arum says is lined up for a big payday with Pac and you consider it a serious offer? REALLY?
Lance says wait until the Donaire fight is over before talking about future fights but Rios possibly fighting pac also stops any chance of talks?

What if Pac loses? What if a Bradley rematch happens. He can be open to the possibility?

You need to be banned just for being a faggot.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:04 PM   #108
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And you call yourself a boxing fan? Yeah its really funny. You know what would be hilarious? If Arum died while you were blowing him and then you choked to death on his rigormortis ****.

Fake as fan. I hope Pavlik goes on another drunken bender a week before the Ward fight and wraps his car around a telephone pole at high speed.

THAT would be funny.
woah..
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:05 PM   #109
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So if Arum has a Donaire-Rigondeux fight in the future and a Rios-Pacquiao fight in the future that could be on the same card, why in the ****** would he go after this matchup?

It's interesting that Bob Arum gets blamed for ruining boxing by following economic self interest, which he in part has to give to his fighters. Nobody questions Golden Boy's comical decision to put on a show against Martinez-Chavez Jr. full of GBP fighters but when GBP announces that Bob Arum is uninterested in a fight, without evidence dickriders jump to the conclusion that Arum is ruining boxing.

Here's what's ruining boxing: Stupid people. Stop being stupid and boxing will improve, with or without Bob Arum.
Arum has shown no interest in a rigo/donaire fight. And anything can happen. Pac and Rigo could both lose. No one is saying he should or should have accepted the offer but to completely blow it off? What about after Rigo/Donaire and Rios/Pac happen? You think Arum will be considering that trade? NO!!!!! He won't.

Wake the **** up people he completely dismissed the offer and basically told Gbp to **** off. All the people defending Arum all have different logic and reasoning..... ****in hilarious.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #110
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Wow shocker -a promoter does not want another promotional company to make money off his fighters.

What is next, a top fighter that does PPV fights only even for shitty opponents.

We are all part of this corrupt shitty business model business call professional boxing.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:09 PM   #111
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Wow shocker -a promoter does not want another promotional company to make money off his fighters.

What is next, a top fighter that does PPV fights only even for shitty opponents.

We are all part of this corrupt shitty business model business call professional boxing.
Well Gbp was willing to do it. And the only reason that those are the terms is because Arum refuses to co-promote the fights with Gbp.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:17 PM   #112
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Arum being Arum

This guy is a ****ing cancer to the sport, really
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:23 PM   #113
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Well Gbp was willing to do it. And the only reason that those are the terms is because Arum refuses to co-promote the fights with Gbp.
But you have to understand that Arum does not want to work with another company he feels a threat - and GBP is a legitimate threat to TR.

Yes it sucks, but if we really want to change things, we must not buy Pac, PBF, Klits and others.

But that will never happen. As they say "we made the bed, now we sleep in it"
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:28 PM   #114
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Arum has shown no interest in a rigo/donaire fight.
You mean besides putting him on televised events of his top fighters, including Donaire?

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And anything can happen. Pac and Rigo could both lose.
And so Donaire fights Pacquiao's fighter (Kratidyngenium or whatever his name is) and Pacquiao still brings in more money than any of GBP's stable.
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No one is saying he should or should have accepted the offer but to completely blow it off?
This is an assumption. Maybe Arum doesn't like the business model but it's more likely he has no reason to make the trade as a business decision. GBP can say whatever it wants to make it seem like they're offering up an effort, just to drum up publicity and fan support among stupid people who are narrow minded.

If you are Top Rank, why would you trust a "trade" from an organization that tried to eat into your third biggest fight of the year?

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What about after Rigo/Donaire and Rios/Pac happen? You think Arum will be considering that trade? NO!!!!! He won't.
Assuming Rios and Donaire win then he wouldn't be considering a "trade" for the same reasons he wouldn't be considering a "trade" in the first place: business.

If GBP thought that they could legitimately make money while also making TR money with a "trade" then they should've presented it that way. You're automatically assuming that Arum's Ego is what's to blame. If GBP thought that a rising tide would lift all boats then they would've put together a business proposal with TR in order to show that they both would benefit.

Arum is a business man, I doubt that he would summarily dismiss a sincere offer by GBP to make himself and his business (and his fighters) money.

People like yourself do boxing a disfavor by jumping to conclusions on one side or the other based on favoritism. You dislike Arum so he must be evil so he's ruining boxing. A smarter analysis would say that he's simply making a business decision.

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Wake the **** up people he completely dismissed the offer and basically told Gbp to **** off. All the people defending Arum all have different logic and reasoning..... ****in hilarious.
What evidence do you have that he simply dismissed the offer? Are you just offering up your own interpretation of Arum saying no?

It's simple; GBP announces to the world that they are willing to do a trade in order to increase favor from boxing's nimrods. They wonder why their competition would be so callous as to prevent a clearly fair trade from taking place. Idiots buy it up and continue to demonize whoever it is that they are told to demonize.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:36 PM   #115
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Where is DoDUNG to defend Bob?
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:29 PM   #116
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Everybody needs to chill. Get like me and just wait for Arum to die. And then pray that Todd has more of an open mind.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:41 PM   #117
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After reading all this shit I came to the conclusion that...........wait for it.......HERMIT is ARUM!
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:45 PM   #118
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After reading all this shit I came to the conclusion that...........wait for it.......HERMIT is ARUM!
About as well reasoned as most of the idiotic shit in this thread I guess.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:51 PM   #119
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i really want the donaire-mares fight as much as any fight for next year so arum must be willing to sit down with GBP to do it but i understand also that mares is almost out of his contract so he could sign a 1 fight deal to get donaire just like what jmm did to get pac as a free-agent. but GBP is a bit sneaky with the matthysse offer. why would they put zab judah for garcia instead of putting matthysse?
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:55 PM   #120
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i really want the donaire-mares fight as much as any fight for next year so arum must be willing to sit down with GBP to do it but i understand also that mares is almost out of his contract so he could sign a 1 fight deal to get donaire just like what jmm did to get pac as a free-agent. but GBP is a bit sneaky with the matthysse offer. why would they put zab judah for garcia instead of putting matthysse?
Rios was a deal breaker and they knew it. Nothing more, nothing less. Arum announced he is holding Rios pending the outcome of the Pac/Marquez fight.
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