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Old 11-29-2012, 07:57 PM   #16
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Floydyboy shouldhve beeen able to get of first too.
Why should he have?
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:12 PM   #17
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Trout is a southpaw moron.
And other than Pacquiao, Cotto has stopped every southpaw hes fought moron.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:16 PM   #18
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:33 PM   #19
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Styles make fights.

It is the simple reason why Hoya looked better against **********. Hoya was able to throw his jab because ********** tends to employ a philly shell.

On the other hand, Pac was like a mosquito. Hoya can not really throw his jab because Pac was nowehere in front of him. Pac was constantly circling and Hoya, even in his prime years, can't really throw a punch unless he is completely planted ansd squared.

Besides, Hoya is really a one handed foghter.

Was the question about Cotto? My bad.

And any idiot who would say drained is stupid. His punch speed was still there, his resistance was still there. Any drained fighter tends to lose his punch resistance first. Eating 400 left hands, to the body, and head, and still standing, while mosley just laid down after being touched by a jab, is not drained.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:35 PM   #20
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Cotto was not undefeated; You are forgetting the beating that Margarito put on him.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:38 PM   #21
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styles make fights

Why was Floyd able to make Marquez look like a bum while Manny still can't get a undisputed win against him
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:43 PM   #22
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Pacquiao shutout a prime undefeated Cotto out, knocking him down twice,

While Mayweather had troubles with a jab, and was brought to the brink of losing.

If Mayweather is such a better fighter, why didn'ts he do better than manny did with cotto?


What the hell fight were you watching?

"Styles makes fights" is all the answer you should need. Its kind of also the reason why Pac and JMM are going at it for the 4th time while Floyd schooled JMM with ease in one fight.

Get your boxing IQ up. You're already coming off as a noob and yet you've only got 24 freakin' posts.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:44 PM   #23
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Cotto was not undefeated; You are forgetting the beating that Margarito put on him.
Damned. Post #20 before someone points out the obvious.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:51 PM   #24
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He got his lead foot on the outside, slipped the jab, and landed a left straight as Cotto stepped in with it. Landed that shot frequently throughout the first half. It's a trick Manny uses a lot.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:02 AM   #25
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He got his lead foot on the outside, slipped the jab, and landed a left straight as Cotto stepped in with it. Landed that shot frequently throughout the first half. It's a trick Manny uses a lot.
And also why he can't consistently counter JMM -- JMM was playing a tug of war game against Pac with foot positioning.
Once one of them slips, the other capitalizes.

Unfortunately very VERY few people realize this.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:08 AM   #26
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Pacquiao shutout a prime undefeated Cotto out, knocking him down twice,

While Mayweather had troubles with a jab, and was brought to the brink of losing.

If Mayweather is such a better fighter, why didn'ts he do better than manny did with cotto?
Why does JMM make Pac look like an amatuer while he can't win a round against Floyd?
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:11 AM   #27
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First off Cotto being lighter proved he could not take a punch as well.. Also he was very passive.. Even Roach said Cotto is a damaged fighter,and he is not the same "at the time"..

Cotto was not coming after Pac,he was not aggressive and had no game plan,he was mainly trying to just trade which was a big mistake.. Also when he had Pac on the ropes,Cotto hesitated,he had lost that killer instinct..
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:13 AM   #28
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clottey beat cotto up to and pacquiao turned and beat that a** also.it was pacquiao's angles and speed,just watch the knockdowns because each punch landed from weird angles.

ahahahahahaha!
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:16 AM   #29
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timing. Floyd's never been that great at a taking a jab away. He pulls his head back all the time and lines himself up for that punch to land.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:19 AM   #30
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And also why he can't consistently counter JMM -- JMM was playing a tug of war game against Pac with foot positioning.
Once one of them slips, the other capitalizes.

Unfortunately very VERY few people realize this.


Pac only timed Marquez a select few times with counters in their third bout, and they were when he stepped into a left or fell for a feint. But over 90% of the time, he had superior positioning.
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