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View Poll Results: Who wins and How.
DLH wins by decision 1 1.89%
DLH wins by TKO 2 3.77%
DLH wins by KO 4 7.55%
Tommy Wins by decision 15 28.30%
Tommy wins by TKO 20 37.74%
Tommy wins by KO 19 35.85%
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:12 AM   #31
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:06 AM   #34
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Thought id throw this one in too.This was a tough fight for DLH.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:28 AM   #35
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Unfortunately for Oscar (and almost every other boxer puncher not named SRL that has ever fought at 147), Hearns is taller and longer, so boxing him wouldn't work. The only way SRL was able to beat Hearns was by taking the fight to him, being aggressive, and trying to get close enough to Hearns to wear him down brawling inside in the hopes of eventually catching him with something.

Could DLH do the same? My guess is probably not. SRL had better handspeed and stamina than DLH, and a better workrate as well. They're pretty close power wise; I'd say DLH had the better left hook and left uppercut, and SRL had an exponentially better right hand. DLH had excellent timing and counterpunching ability later in his career, especially at 154, but at 147, these skills hadn't developed as much.

Basically, since DLH can't outbox Hearns to a decision, and it wasn't his natural style or gameplan to try and wear someone down in close quarters brawling, the only way he'd be able to beat Hearns is to do what Barkley did, which was to press forward and eventually try and time Hearns with a huge bomb at mid-range and then go for the kill. Unfortunately for DLH, the one punch Hearns was most vulnerable to was the overhand right, because of how low he held his left hand. DLH later developed a solid straight right as a counter or lead, but it was never a KO punch for him, and he never had a strong overhand right either. He'd have a lot more difficult trying to catch Hearns with a left hook or uppercut.

DLH would have his best chance to win the fight with an aggressive, come-forward plan of trying to look for a chance to time Hearns for a big counter and then go for the KO. He'd have about 5-6 rounds to do this. If he can't do that, he eventually gets TKO'd (in a 15 round fight) or loses a decision (in a 12 round fight.)

DLH was a great fighter, but Hearns was better and a terrible style matchup for Oscar (and honestly just about anyone ever at 147.)
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:47 AM   #36
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Tommy wins, can't predict how because there are so many different variables that could happen that could change the fight but i think overall Tommy is a little better than Oscar
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hearns by ko before the end of the 4th
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an aggressive DLH has a shot
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:10 AM   #39
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None taken..But bobbin and weavin, great head work and constant movement is great defense, Look at how he was makin Ali miss big shots in theyre first fight..Foreman just had Joes number and was just to much for him, Name me a good fighter that Foreman fought where he never exposes a mans defense with pure brute force. So im sorry but Foreman was a bad example my man.
I am the biggest Frazier fan on here....and even I know this is a horrible ****ysis. Did Frazier have defense...Yes! was it great....not even close....certainly not even remotely comprable to the other names the you used.
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Oscar, by his own admission, was nervous enough about Quartey's power that he got real tenative and didn't throw much.

Well, Hearns had a bigger right hand, faster hands, and was simply a better fighter than Quartey (who won at least 7 rounds against Oscar, who did nothing in the mid rounds).

Hearns by decision.

Oscar has a slim chance at landing a great left hook and stopping Hearns, but it isn't likely. Hell, look at how long it took for Leonard, one of the greatest finishers ever, to finish Hearns.
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Unfortunately for Oscar (and almost every other boxer puncher not named SRL that has ever fought at 147), Hearns is taller and longer, so boxing him wouldn't work. The only way SRL was able to beat Hearns was by taking the fight to him, being aggressive, and trying to get close enough to Hearns to wear him down brawling inside in the hopes of eventually catching him with something.

Could DLH do the same? My guess is probably not. SRL had better handspeed and stamina than DLH, and a better workrate as well. They're pretty close power wise; I'd say DLH had the better left hook and left uppercut, and SRL had an exponentially better right hand. DLH had excellent timing and counterpunching ability later in his career, especially at 154, but at 147, these skills hadn't developed as much.

Basically, since DLH can't outbox Hearns to a decision, and it wasn't his natural style or gameplan to try and wear someone down in close quarters brawling, the only way he'd be able to beat Hearns is to do what Barkley did, which was to press forward and eventually try and time Hearns with a huge bomb at mid-range and then go for the kill. Unfortunately for DLH, the one punch Hearns was most vulnerable to was the overhand right, because of how low he held his left hand. DLH later developed a solid straight right as a counter or lead, but it was never a KO punch for him, and he never had a strong overhand right either. He'd have a lot more difficult trying to catch Hearns with a left hook or uppercut.

DLH would have his best chance to win the fight with an aggressive, come-forward plan of trying to look for a chance to time Hearns for a big counter and then go for the KO. He'd have about 5-6 rounds to do this. If he can't do that, he eventually gets TKO'd (in a 15 round fight) or loses a decision (in a 12 round fight.)

DLH was a great fighter, but Hearns was better and a terrible style matchup for Oscar (and honestly just about anyone ever at 147.)

I agree the styles would clash in Hearns favor..
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:13 PM   #42
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I am the biggest Frazier fan on here....and even I know this is a horrible ****ysis. Did Frazier have defense...Yes! was it great....not even close....certainly not even remotely comprable to the other names the you used.
His defense was ok when he was on, thats as far as I will take it Philly.
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Does everyone feel the same way about Joes defense??
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Hearns wide UD. Oscar would have his moments.

Even in a 15 rounder?
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:53 PM   #45
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I see the stoppage happening between the 7th or 12th round,...if not sooner
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