Pacquiao vs. Marquez 1,2,3 all on youtube by HBO sports (re-watch and state who won)

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by Rexrapper 1

I just scored the fights again and these are my scorecards.

1st fight

1.10-6 Pacquiao
2.10-9 Pacquiao
3.10-9 Marquez
4.10-9 Marquez
5.10-9 Marquez
6.10-9 Marquez
7.10-9 Marquez
8.10-9 Marquez
9.10-9 Pacquiao
10.10-9 Pacquiao
11.10-9 Marquez
12.10-9 Marquez
Total 113-112 Marquez

2nd fight

1.10-9 Pacquiao
2.10-9 Marquez
3.10-8 Pacquiao
4.10-9 Pacquiao
5.10-9 Marquez
6.10-9 Marquez
7.10-9 Marquez
8.10-9 Marquez
9.19-9 Pacquiao
10.10-9 Pacquiao
11.10-9 Marquez
12.10-9 Marquez
Total 114-113 Marquez

3rd fight

1.10-9 Pacquiao
2.10-9 Marquez
3.10-9 Marquez
4.10-9 Pacquiao
5.10-9 Marquez
6.10-9 Pacquiao
7.10-9 Marquez
8.10-9 Marquez
9.10-9 Marquez
10.10-9 Marquez
11.10-9 Pacquiao
12.10-9 Marquez
Total 116-112 Marquez

Don't see any way you can score the 3rd round of the 3rd fight for Jmm

[Ivan Drago]

3rd Fight

Round 1 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 3 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 4 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 5 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 6 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 7 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 8 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 9 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 10 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 11 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 12 - 10-9 Pacquiao

Marquez by 116-112

Hardest fight to score about 6 or 7 rounds that could conceivably be scored either way.

Overall 2-1 to Marquez if it wasn't for the knockdowns Marquez could have put Pacquiao's career in the gutter and maybe then we would have seen Floyd take a fight against Pac. Shame.

[Ivan Drago]

3rd Fight

Round 1 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 3 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 4 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 5 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 6 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 7 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 8 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 9 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 10 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 11 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 12 - 10-9 Pacquiao

Marquez by 116-112

Hardest fight to score about 6 or 7 rounds that could conceivably be scored either way.

Overall 2-1 to Marquez if it wasn't for the knockdowns Marquez could have put Pacquiao's career in the gutter and maybe then we would have seen Floyd take a fight against Pac. Shame.

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by Rexrapper 1

I just scored the fights again and these are my scorecards.
3rd fight

1.10-9 Pacquiao
2.10-9 Marquez
3.10-9 Marquez
4.10-9 Pacquiao
5.10-9 Marquez
6.10-9 Pacquiao
7.10-9 Marquez
8.10-9 Marquez
9.10-9 Marquez
10.10-9 Marquez
11.10-9 Pacquiao
12.10-9 Marquez
Total 116-112 Marquez

Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

3rd Fight

Round 1 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 3 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 4 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 5 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 6 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 7 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 8 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 9 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 10 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 11 - 9-10 Marquez
Round 12 - 10-9 Pacquiao

Marquez by 116-112

Hardest fight to score about 6 or 7 rounds that could conceivably be scored either way.

you both scored it 8-4 for Marquez but one of you gave PAC rounds 4 and 11 the other rounds 3 and 12.

Just illustrates how anyone crying robbery dksab

[Porgeous Porge]

For the third fight i scored 1 and 2 and i had it a draw in 1 and a 1 pt win for pac in 2

Once again i decided to score again

i still have to watch 3 again but i did fight 1 and 2 again

I will say these fights are so damn close i feel 1 was sort of easy, Manny dropped him then won the next round then Marquez cruised for a while until Manny won back a few later on

I had Manny win by 2 the knockdowns ultimately being the difference

fight 2 was a lot harder to score i could watch it 10 times and score it 8 or 9 different ways i had Marquez win by 2

also i did something i dont like i had 1 even round in each fight

i will watch fight 3 and post

[Ivan Drago]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

you both scored it 8-4 for Marquez but one of you gave PAC rounds 4 and 11 the other rounds 3 and 12.

Just illustrates how anyone crying robbery dksab

I agree that it can't be called a robbery because it was insanely close but I think that for Marquez to have lost two and drawn one in the trilogy is extremely unfortunate when he has looked the better boxer in all three fights except for knockdowns.

[Boxing Fanatic]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

Don't see any way you can score the 3rd round of the 3rd fight for Jmm

they r just absolutely clueless. its embarrassing

its like they went to the dan rafael school of judging fights elie seckbach must have been their teacher

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

I agree that it can't be called a robbery because it was insanely close but I think that for Marquez to have lost two and drawn one in the trilogy is extremely unfortunate when he has looked the better boxer in all three fights except for knockdowns.

In the first fight he looked the better boxer during most rounds but it's a 12 round fight and every minute counts from the opening bell to the final bell. JMM has never dominated PAC like PAC dominated JMM at the start of that fight.

Second fight they both looked like equal boxers IMO the kd was the 1 pt difference and even in that round JMM looked good up to that point. But like I said every minute counts and Marquez was getting knocked around in the 3rd rd after he went down

On my cards after 36 rounds it's 19-17 for Marquez but unfortunately for him knockdowns matter and to pac's credit he's been able to dominate marquez in certain moments more than JMM has been able to dominate PAC.

JMM is a great fighter who really has the style to defeat PAC so IMO the fact that they are so level kind of shows pac's abilities

[Whiskers]

Thanks for these. Was able to watch them in better quality than usual. I again scored them the same. Had Pacquiao taking 1 and 2, and Marquez taking 3. It’s strange because the 3rd fight was the one I felt that Pacquiao boxed the best in and limited Marquez’s success more than the other two. But despite that Marquez emerged with the clearest win out of the trilogy. Goes to show that Pacquiao’s aggressiveness and carelessness was serving him better than trying to be a boxer.

[Ivan Drago]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

In the first fight he looked the better boxer during most rounds but it's a 12 round fight and every minute counts from the opening bell to the final bell. JMM has never dominated PAC like PAC dominated JMM at the start of that fight.

Second fight they both looked like equal boxers IMO the kd was the 1 pt difference and even in that round JMM looked good up to that point. But like I said every minute counts and Marquez was getting knocked around in the 3rd rd after he went down

On my cards after 36 rounds it's 19-17 for Marquez but unfortunately for him knockdowns matter and to pac's credit he's been able to dominate marquez in certain moments more than JMM has been able to dominate PAC.

JMM is a great fighter who really has the style to defeat PAC so IMO the fact that they are so level kind of shows pac's abilities

Yeah I think you've put it quite well there let's be honest all three fights genuinely could have went either way and there would have been controversy no matter what the results were. The only thing that separates them I think is that at points during the trilogy, less so in the third fight, Pacquiao has looked like he could knock Marquez out whereas Marquez hasn't so credit to him for going 36 rounds, but yeah Pac deserves credit for holding his own against one of the best boxers out there. I think in terms of legacy history will show Pacquiao ranked ahead of Marquez but in terms of H2H they cannot be separated.