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View Poll Results: Who's been Pacquiao's most Prime opponent?
Timothy Bradley 49 29.70%
Juan Manuel Marquez (Fight 3) 4 2.42%
Antonio Margarito 3 1.82%
Miguel Cotto 12 7.27%
Ricky Hatton 1 0.61%
Marco Antonio Barrera 28 16.97%
Erik Morales (Fight 1) 21 12.73%
Juan Manuel Marquez (Fights 1 & 2) 47 28.48%
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:31 AM   #76
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How can anyone vote for Margo?

Mab was just about prime though coming off a gift over Morales.

Jmm, Bradley, Hatton, cotto, clottey, Diaz, ledwaba were all prime fighters.

I scored all 3 fights to jmm though and I make him a favourite to take this one. Pacs own prime probably ended with clottey so I'd say him and jmm are equally post prime.

His slip has been quite dramatic, he's still one of the best p4p but just a couple of year ago he was seen as a buzzsaw like wrecking machine. Shame him and Floyd didn't fight after Pac beat clottey and Floyd beat shane, that would have been perfect.
It doesn't matter if Hatton and Diaz were primes.
They won't matter, they won't do any different to Pac even in the best night of their lives.
So lol for the 2.

Bradley, I think, is still rising. At least physically, not sure mentally.
I do agree though that Pac did end his prime after Clottey fight.
Did you also find out the difference there?
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:34 AM   #77
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It doesn't matter if Hatton and Diaz were primes.
They won't matter, they won't do any different to Pac even in the best night of their lives. So lol for the 2.

Bradley, I think, is still rising. At least physically, not sure mentally.
I do agree though that Pac did end his prime after Clottey fight.
Did you also find out the difference there?

He just seems less sharp, less ferocious and just less all round tbh.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:36 AM   #78
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barrera, cotto, marquez and bradley. no wrong answer among these four.
Cause being in your prime = weight drained. Ok.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:45 AM   #79
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He just seems less sharp, less ferocious and just less all round tbh.
Yep, and he's getting lazy moving around the ring nowadays
I kinda find it out in the Mosley fight.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:57 AM   #80
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Cause being in your prime = weight drained. Ok.
Every fighter drains in-between fights.
It's just in a matter of how low they drain and every one of them have their respective natural draining weights.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:58 AM   #81
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voted for juan but, you could also say bradley, mab, and eric(first fight). Hatton was still close to his prime, cotto also(I refuse to believe someone can get shot due to 1 single defeat)
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cotto's prime is from 2007-2009. around at his prime weight and at his physical peak. there is no such evidence that cotto is not in his utmost prime during that period. even that version of cotto who fought margo, clottey and pac would have beat the version of bradley that pac fought. don't get too emotional just because your opinion is not shared by everyone.
So his prime conveniently ended after he lost to Pacquiao?
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:11 AM   #83
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So his prime conveniently ended after he lost to Pacquiao?
Consistent beatdowns from the Margo, Clottey, and Pac fights could be enough to destroy his moral.
It's not like they were just slapping Cotto's head in there
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True, but was that a prime Hatton?
In my opinion yes.

He was fresh of beating the no.2 guy in the division with ease.
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Cause being in your prime = weight drained. Ok.
he was drained but he was still in his prime

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So his prime conveniently ended after he lost to Pacquiao?
He is still prime even till now, I hate all the cotto past prime excuses. He simply loss and people should just accept it
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:24 AM   #86
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Consistent beatdowns from the Margo, Clottey, and Pac fights could be enough to destroy his moral.
It's not like they were just slapping Cotto's head in there
So how do you judge he was past prime after the Pacquiao fight and not after the Margarito or Clottey fights?
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:26 AM   #87
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In my opinion yes.

He was fresh of beating the no.2 guy in the division with ease.
He didn't have to be prime to dominate that division at the time to be fair.

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Consistent beatdowns from the Margo, Clottey, and Pac fights could be enough to destroy his moral.
It's not like they were just slapping Cotto's head in there
or he simply loss, they are not an indication that he is past his prime, it only tells you the guy has weaknesses and limitations
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:28 AM   #89
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He is still prime even till now, I hate all the cotto past prime excuses. He simply loss and people should just accept it
I think this is a fair point, the problem with ESB is they have the logic that the further you are past a loss equals the further past your prime you are.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:42 AM   #90
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i would have answered timmeh had he not had an injury in that fight. that wasn't a 100% timmeh.
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