Whos the number one fighter toe to toe? Just power and chin? and maybe endurance

[lufcrazy]

he's just asking who the best toe to toe fighter is. I pick Louis, although p4p it's Rocky imo.

[janitor]

Max Baer might be worth a mention.

Even Joe Louis knew better than to stand toe to toe with him.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Seamus

If chin includes stamina and mental strength....err.. no, it is not.

It is John L Sullivan.

Y'see, the first sentence is where everything goes wrong. Chin isn't stamina or mental strength, Seamus.

[MadcapMaxie]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Y'see, the first sentence is where everything goes wrong. Chin isn't stamina or mental strength, Seamus.

Also when did Foreman ever show signs of mental weakness? He came of the canvas twice against Lyle and against Young fought to the point that afterwards he collapsed and had visions of Jesus that says something about his heart.

I really like Marciano as perhaps numero uno P4P what other 185lbs does anyone see standing right in front of him and outslugging him? With his combination of power, chin, stamina, aggressivness, workrate and heart. I certainly don't see anyone.

I'd also rate Dick Tiger righhhhht up there he was a minitank I've never saw him budge at Middleweight. McCellan at Middleweight would have to be another his power was ridiculous, as well as his chin and aggressivness. Dude had alot of heart too.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Y'see, the first sentence is where everything goes wrong. Chin isn't stamina or mental strength, Seamus.

So, Wlad has a great chin then, I suppose.

If you've ever been hit square on the jaw and had the choice in the back of your mind to pack it in, panic or see Jesus, you might think differently.

[orriray59]

So, Wlad has a great chin then, I suppose.

Well, no. If you're trying to insinuate that mental strength and stamina are the reasons Sanders trounced him, you do that.
Obviously stamina was an issue causing his demise in other fights, and I do agree, but that's not punch resistance.

If you've ever been hit square on the jaw and had the choice in the back of your mind to pack it in, panic or see Jesus, you might think differently.

Well, I have. Numerous times.

P.S. I didn't actually see Jesus.

[RockyJim]

Power?...chin?...stamina?...Marciano...of course!!!

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by RockyJim

Power?...chin?...stamina?...Marciano...of course!!!

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[Theron]

Originally Posted by RockyJim

Power?...chin?...stamina?...Marciano...of course!!!

Wow i had no idea you'd say Rocky...what a surprise..

[OMGWTF]

Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

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[OMGWTF]

Originally Posted by RockyJim

Power?...chin?...stamina?...Marciano...of course!!!

P4P Hell yes! and in total he would be up there for certain! He really had alot of qualities going for him didnt he, not many hard punchers have a good work rate let alone a good chin to boot, what a guy!