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Old 12-01-2012, 04:07 PM   #61
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Does Roach think everyone is uneducated and stupid?! S&C coaches being out of the sport in no way gets rid of PEDS, and a good coach is an asset to a fighter. Period. You'd have to eliminate doctors, physio therapists, local gym rats, bodybuilders, power lifters, anti aging clinics, supplement stores etc etc etc from ever having contact with the atheletes to even have a chance of eliminating PEDs. And that doesn't even cover the true sources, which would need to be outlawed, which will never happen since there is clinical use for these hormones in human and veterinary medicine. ****ing laughable. A good S&C coach is invaluable beyond any potential drug ties.
Good post. Especially how you ended it.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:15 PM   #62
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:37 PM   #63
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All I know is that S&C coaches just give them fighters protein shakes.

Holy shit! MikeW is a S&C coach?
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:39 PM   #64
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This passes as a confession? I doubt Roach would actually act on his words to get rid of strength and conditioning coaches.
Seems more like he's taking shots at either Hernandez or Ariza.. whoever he's pissed at this week.
It's not exactly the best type of hype, but at least there's some only a week from fight night.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:36 PM   #65
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That was a completely irresponsible quote from Roach whether they're guilty or not
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:41 PM   #66
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:42 PM   #67
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This passes as a confession? I doubt Roach would actually act on his words to get rid of strength and conditioning coaches.
Seems more like he's taking shots at either Hernandez or Ariza.. whoever he's pissed at this week.
It's not exactly the best type of hype, but at least there's some only a week from fight night.
Confession, admission.. whatever.

It just looks like Roach is inadvertently becoming a whistleblower on Ariza,
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:36 PM   #68
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Who was Toney's S&C coach when he got busted for steroids? LOL
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:51 PM   #69
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Who was Toney's S&C coach when he got busted for steroids? LOL
That could have been Justln Fortune.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:58 PM   #70
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In a sworn declaration in support of the dismissal motion, Roach said Fortune admitted to him that he used performance enhancing drugs, or PEDs.
“During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that (he) had used PEDs.”
Fortune denied Roach’s assertion in his own sworn declaration.
“I never told Freddie Roach that I had taken steroids,” Fortune said in his statement. “The statements were made as a result of a personal dispute between us that has been going on for years.”
According to Fortune’s court papers, Roach once sued Fortune, claiming he was owed money, but the case was dismissed.
Freddie is full of shit.

Now if he claims Fortune admitted to him that he used PEDs before becoming a power lifter, why would he hire him later at Wild Card to be Toney's personal trainer? LOL.

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15.01.04 - By John Garfield, courtesy of Fightworld.us: There's nothing so direct as a smack in the mouth, and that's how ****** Fortune, the former Australian, Marciano-sized, heavyweight, and now conditioning coach for Freddie Roach, speaks. Right between the eyes! He knows that professional fighting is not about the glitzy package that's presented on pay-per-view or the media-comfortable toothpaste ads that put a lump in your throat talking about motherhood and the American flag.
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