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Old 12-03-2012, 08:33 AM   #31
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And there is also a psychogenic effect associated with many peds creating a feeling of invincibility.

That lack of fear gives some guys an extraordinary amount of confidence that they can withstand the abuse and land that game changing punch.

Essentially, they don't ever get disheartened or get that feeling of hopelessness.
That explains Manny Pacquiao in the first Morales fight
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:33 AM   #32
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Wach's gain in muscularity begins to make sense now. Hmm, may be even his puzzling increase in knockout percentage during the last 10 fights can be explained here too?

Is this shocking though? If every other guy is likely on the juice, as has been proposed by many watchers, Wach is only trying to equal the level of playing field. Lets not fool ourselves - Vitali already admitted to doping, and I would bet any money Wlad dopes as well. The trick is to hire the best "nutritionists" and not get caught when it counts. Victor Conte has already illuminated us so much on this subject and I believe him.

Anyways, let Wach be punished - not for doping of course....but for being dumb enough to test positive.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:34 AM   #33
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this may explain, to some extent, why he didn't go down in the fight
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:35 AM   #34
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Designer Steroids.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:40 AM   #35
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Is this shocking though? If every other guy is likely on the juice, as has been proposed by many watchers, Wach is only trying to equal the level of playing field.
Don't try to bullshit us with some kind of circular logic.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:45 AM   #36
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Don't try to bullshit us with some kind of circular logic.
What kind of ****ing circular logic when it's appearing and becoming more and more top fighters are or have been on the juice ???
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:45 AM   #37
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Don't try to bullshit us with some kind of circular logic.
For starters, that is not circular logic, if you even know what that term really means. Second, world class influential philosophers like Peter Singer have used this very same logic to argue for the legalization of steroids in professional athletes. See for yourself:



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Old 12-03-2012, 08:46 AM   #38
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He was quite awful even with the steroids.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:52 AM   #39
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He was quite awful even with the steroids.
haha agreed and yet in many ways he did better than Wlad's recent competition. Big questions are whether the roids helped him take the punishment from Wald and whether his recent dramatic up surge in KO percentage points to a longer term dependence on roids.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #40
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Seeing Briggs and Wach take these 12 round beatings makes me wonder if roids can indeed improve punch resistance.
Maybe they make a guy dumb enough to try.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:00 AM   #41
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He did look more muscular in the Wlad fight than before.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:05 AM   #42
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**** sakw this sport is getting worse...dodgy gloves and now this..wach is a dickhead and so is his trainer
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:10 AM   #43
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**** sakw this sport is getting worse...dodgy gloves and now this..wach is a dickhead and so is his trainer
Yeah I forgot about the glove. ****er should lose his license for a while.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:11 AM   #44
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PED's exist in Boxing. That is a Fact.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:14 AM   #45
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PED's exist in Boxing. That is a Fact.
Oh? Do you have any evidence?
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