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Old 12-01-2012, 03:45 PM   #46
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If Bute start fighting guys that are not that known and without a belt, I don't think people will full the Bell center anymore. Interbox won't be making much if Bute doesn't fight against world class oponent or for a belt. His last fight was quite disapointing and I am not so sure that many people would come back to see him after that performance if it against Rodriguez.

As for a Pascal-Dawson fight, I don't see the point, except for Pascal to grab a belt. Pascal beated fare and square Dawson in the first fight and showed he was much stronger and much faster that bad Chad.
Timothy Bradley vs Kendall Holt filled 7k at the Bell Center a few years ago. That's not even bringing up the fact that most of Bute's title reign was against mediocre competition. I'm pretty sure next time Bute fights, doesn't matter who it is, he'll get around 10k people to show up.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:25 PM   #47
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But Bute, while beating up some bums (they were not all bums), had the belt. Now he is going to fight bums without the belt. Expect Bute's support to gradually erode if he is fighting nobody's without a belt.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:28 PM   #48
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Grachev apparently wasn't risk free. Should he retire?

Should he only be around if he can't take risks?

Now, understand, I think Bute probably takes it, because I'm not particularly high on Rodriguez. But after the beating Bute took against Froch, thats the kind of beating that you have to show something more than what he showed against Grachev to restore faith.
Unless.......wait for it........

You intentionally underperform soas to get your nemesis to underestimate you
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:30 PM   #49
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But Bute, while beating up some bums (they were not all bums), had the belt. Now he is going to fight bums without the belt. Expect Bute's support to gradually erode if he is fighting nobody's without a belt.
He just fought a nobody. Edwin Rodriguez is 10X the fighter WBO titlist Abraham is scheduled to defend against. 10 ****ing times.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:48 PM   #50
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Unless.......wait for it........

You intentionally underperform soas to get your nemesis to underestimate you
Nobody likes to look bad, nobody at that lvl risk's to lose because he underrates his opponent and give him chances. The only thing Bute might have done is trying to trade with Grachev, to see how well he handles it instead of box and move. Bute looked slow..er in his last fight btw.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:44 PM   #51
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You don't know that, he is undefeated. I only know Rodriguez can hit hard like Andrade. From one punch you can be down.
Rodriguez is an ok puncher . he isn't even in Andrade power level whos wears you out with pressure
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:47 PM   #52
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good, much better fight for Bute but still I think he's ruined. He woulda killed Rodriguez 2 years ago but now? I dunno he might get beat he looked awful vs Grachev.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:06 PM   #53
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Well i guess it's a possibility , Bute-Froch 2 end of 2013 ?
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:28 PM   #54
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IF he fights Rodriguez this might be the first fight of Bute in the last 5-6 years that I won't watch.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #55
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IF he fights Rodriguez this might be the first fight of Bute in the last 5-6 years that I won't watch.
I'll watch anyway , but that's just me
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:05 AM   #56
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IF he fights Rodriguez this might be the first fight of Bute in the last 5-6 years that I won't watch.
Rodriguez is a very underrated boxer who hits hard. I think King Arthur might have problems with him.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:29 AM   #57
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Didn't HBO once refused to air Froch Kessler ? Now they want to air this ? What the hell
I know it doesn't make sense but remember that Edwin is an American action fighter who had an outstanding amateur career. He's also Dominican and there aren't many high profile professionals from DR at the moment...except for Javier Fortuna( the best prospect in the world IMO).
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:50 AM   #58
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There isn't a huge demand for the rematch at the moment and Bute didn't make it better with his last fight. Bute-Rodriguez would be a good fight itself and if Bute won that would increase demand for the Froch rematch.

Of course, if they both take dangerous fights in the meantime and Stevenson wanting his mandatory shot than the rematch could end up being s****ped altogether.
Froch may have damned well ruined Bute. I was thinking Bute still had a shot against Froch until his last fight.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:31 AM   #59
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I would be very disappointed with Bute and InterBox if they were to make this fight.

Bute has had his tune-up!

Is he supposed to be a real world-class fighter or just someone who can compete at world-class level only on his best day, with the wind behind him?

Sorry, but a real world-class fighter shakes the dust of defeat off in a tune-up and then gets back into the saddle in the next fight against a real world-class fighter!

Bute needs to fight proven world-class fighters from now on, not unproven prospects!

Come on, Lucian! What are you doing?
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:41 AM   #60
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I would be very disappointed with Bute and InterBox if they were to make this fight.

Bute has had his tune-up!

Is he supposed to be a real world-class fighter or just someone who can compete at world-class level only on his best day, with the wind behind him?

Sorry, but a real world-class fighter shakes the dust of defeat off in a tune-up and then gets back into the saddle in the next fight against a real world-class fighter!

Bute needs to fight proven world-class fighters from now on, not unproven prospects!

Come on, Lucian! What are you doing?
As for me I was never sold on Lucian Bute. A lot of you here are giving this guy to much credit but was he ever really tested? I'm not so sure. Froch takes him to school not once but 3, 5 times. Face it...it is what it is.
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