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View Poll Results: What should Khan do from here?
Turn himself into a slick boxer that avoids trading shots. 275 65.95%
Keep fighting the way he has, it was just a rough night 29 6.95%
Move up to welterweight, there is nothing left to accomplish at 140 22 5.28%
Retire at 25 years young with millions of pounds in his bank and a beautiful wife 91 21.82%
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:44 PM   #481
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To me khans career is pretty much over since the Garcia loss but for some reason Im still intrigued and follow what Khans doing because of virgil and what changes we may see.

From what little footage and info we have, it looks dissapointing though. Khan only seems to be making incremental changes to his game when he needs a transformation. I know its easier said then done but even his mentality remains the same. He doesnt acknowledge his shortcomings as he should do.. He still makes jackass remarks and still has that same attitude.

I dont know much about Molina but that he has fast hands and is unbeaten. This isnt gonna be a cakewalk for khan as his morale may still be low and a hungry molina could be chomping at the bit for recognition.

For khan to make anything of his sinking career, he should be going to dem mountain tops and caves and shit with specialist defensive trainers and senseis 24/7 restructuring him and hammering the discipline into his head lol. Not just getting a liccle bit of knowledge and work done with virgil, going raving with his boys and saying "im geh'in stronguhh"
You seem like an expert at making inferences on video clips which are no longer then a minute. First of all, I'm sure there is a lot more going on in camp, with Khan, then what you are alluding to. Secondly, changes take time, you cannot expect to see a whole new Amir Khan in the Molina fight. It will take a couple of fights to see what Virgil Hunter has instilled in Khan. However, this time around, I believe, we will definitely see a more patient Khan, who will not be trading much, or brawling.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:21 PM   #482
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Khan should outpoint this guy, but this not a easy fight in any way.

I want to see a controlled display from Khan, I still believe when Khan boxes its really hard for any fighter to outpoint him.

Its Khan's return the guy who was the 140 King they used to call him King Khan, we coming back 2013 Khan coming back for his titles.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:01 PM   #483
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if he struggles with this guy he really has to reconsider his future option as far as the sport goes, 140 is packed out now, and most these guys have the power to knock khan out.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:05 PM   #484
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To me khans career is pretty much over since the Garcia loss but for some reason Im still intrigued and follow what Khans doing because of virgil and what changes we may see.

From what little footage and info we have, it looks dissapointing though. Khan only seems to be making incremental changes to his game when he needs a transformation. I know its easier said then done but even his mentality remains the same. He doesnt acknowledge his shortcomings as he should do.. He still makes jackass remarks and still has that same attitude.

I dont know much about Molina but that he has fast hands and is unbeaten. This isnt gonna be a cakewalk for khan as his morale may still be low and a hungry molina could be chomping at the bit for recognition.

For khan to make anything of his sinking career, he should be going to dem mountain tops and caves and shit with specialist defensive trainers and senseis 24/7 restructuring him and hammering the discipline into his head lol. Not just getting a liccle bit of knowledge and work done with virgil, going raving with his boys and saying "im geh'in stronguhh"
Have to disagree. The worst thing you can do to a fighter is try to change their entire in-ring personality. Khan only needs to make a few adjustments and layer his mold as a boxer with new offensive and defensive tools. When he stays disciplined, he exercises great anticipation and timing (Malignaggi, Judah). It's only a few mistakes, such as leaning in with his offense, and holes in his game, such as head movement and blocking shots more calmly, that would nullify a vast majority of the shots that put him in trouble. Mental discipline I do think is important, but I think the loss to Garcia made him realize he needs to change his retaliate-when-hit approach.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:19 PM   #485
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I don't want to come across as a hater but I'm being harsh as I want to see Khan succeed. I can't lie though, I have been dissapointed on Khans performances of late. Virgil was presented with a list of opponents and he said Molina was the best one out of them. Virgil also said it'd take time for the improvements to show and all he expects from Khan is a more patient attack come fight night... thinking about the steps he's going to make and letting the fight come to him.

Even from interviews that i've put up in this thread you can see a different Khan. Being surrounded by the likes of Andre and Virgil can only boost his moral in doing better. He has achieved a lot in this sport at 25.. sometimes I think hes in it for the money.. then i think he's a boxer who wasn't taught all areas of 'how to box' and just went with the flow.

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Old 12-02-2012, 10:40 PM   #486
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Undercard in LA looks stacked - Leo Santa Cruz, Angulo, Wilder, Porter (lost to Degale in ams at York Hall) and 7 London Olympians
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A special Saturday of boxing will begin with a live afternoon doubleheader of “SHOWTIME Boxing on CBS” (4:30 p.m. ET / 1:30 p.m. PT, CBS). In the main event, voracious young International Boxing Federation (IBF) Bantamweight World Champion Leo Santa Cruz (22-0-1, 13 KOs) will face fellow unbeaten Alberto “Metro” Guevara (16-0, 6 KOs) of Mazatlan, Mexico.
2012 United States Olympian, the highly regarded Joseph “Jo-Jo” Diaz Jr., 19, of South El Monte, Calif., will make his anticipated professional debut against an opponent to be announced in the opening bout of the CBS broadcast.
It has been 15 years since CBS last aired live boxing. On Jan. 20, 1997, the most watched network presented then-middleweight champion [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]‘ knock-out win over Glen Johnson. The most recent broadcast network presentation of live boxing was The Contender in 2005.
“We are proud to deliver one of today’s most exciting fighters in Leo Santa Cruz, taking on an undefeated challenger in Alberto Guevara, to a broadcast television audience,” said SHOWTIME Sports Executive Vice President and General Manager, Stephen Espinoza. “Coupled with the pro debut of Olympian Jo-Jo Diaz on CBS and the evening’s SHOWTIME CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING event makes December 15 a very special day for boxing.”
Later that evening, SHOWTIME EXTREME (8:30 p.m. ET/PT) and SHOWTIME (10:30 p.m. ET/PT, delayed on the West Coast) will present an additional slate of boxing on the premium network. The live fistic marathon will culminate with popular fan favorite and former Unified Super Lightweight World Champion and British superstar, Amir “King” Khan (26-3, 18 KOs), of Bolton England, facing undefeated contender Carlos Molina (17-0-1, 7 KOs), a former National Amateur Champion from Norwalk, Calif., in a 12-round junior welterweight fight. Additional fights on SHOWTIME and preliminary fights on SHOWTIME EXTREME are to be announced.
This has been a breakout year for the fast-rising, 5-foot-7½, 24-year-old Santa Cruz, who’ll be making his fifth start of 2012. He won the IBF 118-pound crown with an impressive 12-round unanimous decision over Vusi Malinga last June 2. A volume-punching pressure fighter, Santa Cruz retained his title with a fifth-round technical knockout win over former World Champion Eric Morel on Sept. 15 and by ninth-round knockout over Victor Zaleta this past Nov. 10. All three of his thrilling title fights were on SHOWTIME.
Guevara, who will be making his United States debut, has fought exclusively in Mexico with all but six of his pro fights in his native Mazatlan. A pro since November 2009, Guevara will be fighting for the third time this year. He is coming off of a unanimous eight-round decision victory over Raul Hidalgo last Aug. 4 in Mazatlan. Guevara’s most noteworthy victory came two outings ago when he captured a lopsided 10-round decision in a wild, one-sided bout against Khabir Suleymanov on April 14, of this year.
Diaz is a talented, promising southpaw who was the youngest member of the 2012 U.S. Olympic team. A two-time national amateur champion at bantamweight and graduate of South El Monte High, Diaz went 108-6 in the amateurs. He advanced to the round of 16 in the London Games before losing to top-rated Cuban and eventual Bronze medalist, Lazaro Alvarez. Diaz, who is trained by his father, turns pro with one immediate goal: buy his parents a new house.
Other bouts on SHOWTIME and SHOWTIME EXTREME will be announced soon. All the fistic action on Saturday, Dec. 15 is promoted by Golden Boy Promotions and sponsored by Corona and AT&T.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:19 AM   #489
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Angulo interests me. Will look forward to watching him
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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]Think Ruben was concentrating on defining Khan's abs and arms throughout the camp... what about his legs/back/traps/neck? Looked awfully top heavy in that fight.
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Will be interesting to see Khan's physique come fight night...

Someone still needs to beat Ariza's work
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Will be interesting to see Khan's physique come fight night...

Someone still needs to beat Ariza's work
Ariza is a ****ing knob...watch on freddie roach...basically bullying his trainees "you'll get knocked out since you haven't gone to bed by 10pm manny"

****ing retard. Imagine with all the pressure to make weight, planning, family, conditioning etc, having someone working FOR YOU bullying you around. Some of these guys don't know their place.

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