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Old 12-04-2012, 07:04 PM   #16
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He wasnt rushed he just couldnt take a punch
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Among the many fighters I rank into the "very good" category.

Strong, solid power and technique, he could show good defensive skills at times but proved to be vulnerable to the left hook. I like that he threw short punches and didn't wing his shots. He showed in certain bouts that he could box and brawl. I thought Winky beat him, but at the very least, he was highly competitive with an excellent boxer in Winky.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:48 PM   #18
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an above average fighter who couldve been better if his handlers didnt cash out on him too early in his career..
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:54 PM   #19
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apparently he peaked to soon

his prime was at were late teens, early 20's apparently but i remember seeing a pic ages ago and thinking WOW


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i wondered how the hell anyone could do that to someone,

now i no

its them damn roids.
That swelling was caused by a headbutt (imo)
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:04 PM   #20
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I remember him knocking some dude out then screaming "whos the chump NOW!" with veins sticking out of his neck. Very scary dude in his prime.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:05 PM   #21
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One dimensional and lazy guy who loved food and booze more then the sport of boxing. He was at best a gate keeper.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:22 PM   #22
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He wasnt rushed he just couldnt take a punch
agree that he wasnt rushed but ferocious could take a solid shot.


he fought threw that wicked tito left that layed out mw william joppy.

prime vargas beats todays entire jmw class. prime winky, too. add norris as well.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:24 PM   #23
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One dimensional and lazy guy who loved food and booze more then the sport of boxing. He was at best a gate keeper.
Dumbest post Ive read all day
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:25 PM   #24
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I remember him knocking some dude out then screaming "whos the chump NOW!" with veins sticking out of his neck. Very scary dude in his prime.
That was against Ross Thompson, they had some pre fight beef started by Ross.... that got Vargas pretty fired up for a guy who he was otherwise looking past.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:25 PM   #25
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agree that he wasnt rushed but ferocious could take a solid shot.


he fought threw that wicked tito left that layed out mw william joppy.

prime vargas beats todays entire jmw class. prime winky, too. add norris as well.
no, no he doesn't
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:29 PM   #26
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He wasnt rushed he just couldnt take a punch
He went over 100 amature fights, to the olympics, fought Ike, Campas, Marquez and Winky without barely flinching at a punches.

The Trinidad fight took his punch resistance.

If he couldnt take a punch he would have never been able to war with Ike, or gotten to the 12th round against Trinidad, or the 11th against Hoya.

But Tito took a huge chunk of it, and Hoya finished what was left.

Just imo but fighting Trinidad with barely over 20 fights is rushed by almost anyones standards.
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no, no he doesn't
Who in your opinion at 154 today beats a prime Winky? Just curious....
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:30 PM   #28
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I hate how early his career ended. He STILL isn't that old really. Just about all world class fighters at his current age still fight.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:34 PM   #29
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Its funny, I disliked him back then but wish there were more guys like him now.
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Very. Until about 2005.
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