who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas

MAG1965 · 12-04-2012, 11:46 PM

I just saw a question on ESB about how good was Fernando Vargas. So I ask this comparison. Who was better of these two?

brnxhands · 12-04-2012, 11:47 PM

Miguel cotto had a damn sure better career

BobDigi5060 · 12-04-2012, 11:51 PM

Miguel Cotto has many accomplishments, and Tito Trinidad beat the shit outta Fernando Vargas. His chin was half as good as Miguel Cotto'.

Low Blow Combos · 12-04-2012, 11:52 PM

Cotto because he actually reached his potential, he isn't an "if" like Vargas is.

WhataRock · 12-05-2012, 01:34 AM

Vargas peak vs Miguel peak..I'd say Vargas was a tad better and beat better fighters at his best.

Cotto wouldn't have been that competitive with a welter Tito or even Quartey for that matter..I know size comes into it but Miguel was at his peak early welter days.

Cotto's career is better though..mainly because he fell off less so when he was beaten and he was able to achieve something even when into his decline.

floyd_g.o.a.t · 12-05-2012, 01:41 AM

My boy, COTTO!

WhataRock · 12-05-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060

Miguel Cotto has many accomplishments, and Tito Trinidad beat the shit outta Fernando Vargas. His chin was half as good as Miguel Cotto'.

I don't see Cotto lasting half as long against Trinidad though.

JMP · 12-05-2012, 01:53 AM

Vargas was better at his best, but Cotto has the longer list of accomplishments and a deeper resume.

HawkFan16 · 12-05-2012, 02:15 AM

Cotto has had a better career and has a better resume... but with that being said, a prime Vargas destroys the 154 pound version of Cotto (though in Cotto's defense, he's undersized and past prime at this weight.)

difO · 12-05-2012, 02:21 AM

vargas without even trying...

MrMagic · 12-05-2012, 02:21 AM

Cotto more accomplished, Roided Vargas would knock him out, however.

kirk · 12-05-2012, 02:24 AM

I think Vargas at his best (1999-2002) was better then Cotto at his best (2006-2008 )

I also think a non shot Vargas beats Cotto H2H.

So in terms of who I think was actually the better fighter? Id go with Vargas.

However, I think Cotto has had the better career.

I think based on that, if I was to rank who was 'greater' I would rank Cotto above Vargas.

eliqueiros · 12-05-2012, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060

Miguel Cotto has many accomplishments, and Tito Trinidad beat the shit outta Fernando Vargas. His chin was half as good as Miguel Cotto'.

Hard to tell, Cotto was never hit by Trinidad.

eliqueiros · 12-05-2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Cotto more accomplished, Roided Vargas would knock him out, however.

Ha ha, I voted Cotto based on accomplishments but h2h at 154 you're right.

JMP · 12-05-2012, 02:48 AM

Yeah, can't possibly see Cotto at 154 beating a prime Vargas. He'd be chopped down and outdone comprehensively by a bigger, stronger, and more physically gifted/able fighter at the weight.

View Poll Results: Who was the better fighter?
Miguel Cotto	34	77.27%
Fernando Vargas	10	22.73%
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MAG1965 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas,Texas. Posts: 18,301 vCash: 1010	who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas I just saw a question on ESB about how good was Fernando Vargas. So I ask this comparison. Who was better of these two?
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brnxhands Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bronx ny Posts: 6,127 vCash: 0	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Miguel cotto had a damn sure better career
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BobDigi5060 East Side MMA East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TX Posts: 8,957 vCash: 553	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Miguel Cotto has many accomplishments, and Tito Trinidad beat the shit outta Fernando Vargas. His chin was half as good as Miguel Cotto'.
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Low Blow Combos T H E G O D F A T H E R ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,341 vCash: 75	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Cotto because he actually reached his potential, he isn't an "if" like Vargas is.
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WhataRock Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 13,402 vCash: 166	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Vargas peak vs Miguel peak..I'd say Vargas was a tad better and beat better fighters at his best. Cotto wouldn't have been that competitive with a welter Tito or even Quartey for that matter..I know size comes into it but Miguel was at his peak early welter days. Cotto's career is better though..mainly because he fell off less so when he was beaten and he was able to achieve something even when into his decline.
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floyd_g.o.a.t Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 9,305 vCash: 10000	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas My boy, COTTO!
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HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,145 vCash: 1000	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Cotto has had a better career and has a better resume... but with that being said, a prime Vargas destroys the 154 pound version of Cotto (though in Cotto's defense, he's undersized and past prime at this weight.)
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difO Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 889 vCash: 500	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas vargas without even trying...
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MrMagic Super Six East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 24,483 vCash: 1000	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Cotto more accomplished, Roided Vargas would knock him out, however.
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kirk ConquerorChozen1Attila* East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ill swallow my Blood before i swallow my Pride Posts: 29,599 vCash: 75	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas I think Vargas at his best (1999-2002) was better then Cotto at his best (2006-2008 ) I also think a non shot Vargas beats Cotto H2H. So in terms of who I think was actually the better fighter? Id go with Vargas. However, I think Cotto has had the better career. I think based on that, if I was to rank who was 'greater' I would rank Cotto above Vargas.
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JMP Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9,833 vCash: 75	Re: who is better? Miguel Cotto or Fernando Vargas Yeah, can't possibly see Cotto at 154 beating a prime Vargas. He'd be chopped down and outdone comprehensively by a bigger, stronger, and more physically gifted/able fighter at the weight.
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