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Old 12-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #1
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Default Wlad gets severely underrated in H2H matchups

For some reason, people love to still bring up what happened pre 2005 about Wlad, as if Wlad was the same fighter then that he is today


Tyson knocking out Wlad in 1 round?

You guys talk about Wlad's flaws, what about Tyson's flaws? Tyson had trouble with tall, powerful boxers, with a good jab. Wlad could really beat up, frustrate, outsmart tyson on the outside all night long.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:39 PM   #2
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The question with Wladimir is, if he will get hit, apart from that it's very hard to outbox him.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:40 PM   #3
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That myth about Tyson having trouble with " tall, powerful boxers, with a good jab" is getting old.

Tyson had some difficulty against mobile, athletic guys who had chins ... and the punch that he was susceptible to was the uppercut, not the jab.

Wlad has trouble with fast hands, power and aggression.

Wlad against Tyson is like a lion against a gazelle.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:41 PM   #4
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I can't see a 5'10 boxer beating Wlad, I don't care if it's tyson. He is going to get wrecked on the outside.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:43 PM   #5
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This is a myth. Wlad has completely corrected that problem since training with emanuel steward.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:46 PM   #6
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I agree, in HGH matchups he's always the clear winner.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:47 PM   #7
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It's his chin that's the problem. The better fighters over the years would find his chin and I can't see it holding up. It tough to envisage any fighters outboxing Wlad over the distance.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:48 PM   #8
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I agree, in HGH matchups he's always the clear winner.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:59 PM   #9
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Past great HWs are not going to be undone by a continuous 1-2. He cant throw an uppercut or a shot to the body, cant adapt, and has no plan b.

He's nothing more than an optical illusion.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:00 PM   #10
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This is a myth. Wlad has completely corrected that problem since training with emanuel steward.


You think that back peddling arms out nonsense will save him from the most explosive boxer that ever lived?? That stupid cautious style will be an open invitation to Tyson.

Tyson at 5'10" regularly destroyed guys 6'3" and up

Tyson has already destroyed a Wladimir Klitschko in the past:

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And Steward was with Wlad in his corner when Brewster hammered him.

Wlad would be fighting scared out of his mind and back peddling.
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For some reason, people love to still bring up what happened pre 2005 about Wlad, as if Wlad was the same fighter then that he is today


Tyson knocking out Wlad in 1 round?

You guys talk about Wlad's flaws, what about Tyson's flaws? Tyson had trouble with tall, powerful boxers, with a good jab. Wlad could really beat up, frustrate, outsmart Tyson on the outside all night long.
Maybe in Germany anywhere else i think Wlad would be i great danger of getting DQ loss, Mike would get inside often and we know Wlad would hold and hold again, i meen there was 16 clinches against Mormeck in first round just imagine how much there would be against Tyson.
About KO in round 1 not realistic but thinking Wlad would keep him away with his jab is bullshit he missed a lot against Haye and mike had better head movement than Haye, plus his all game was fighting small and he knew how to attack ofter misses from his opponents. Wlad does have fast feet for his size as he showed it against Haye but mike was faster on his feet than Haye and actually knew how to get inside something that Haye doesnt know how to do.
if Wlad would throw as many punches as he needs to keep Mike of him he would gas before 5th thing is he would hold hold hold becouse he can not throw enough shots to keep Mike away!
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I can't see a 5'10 boxer beating Wlad, I don't care if it's tyson. He is going to get wrecked on the outside.
As Tyson said his size was his advantage tall guys found it difficult to hit him and they were used to fighting bigger guys than him, i just can not believe that so many of fans here once they dont have arguments start talking size size size Valuev is much bigger that Wlad and Wlad would murder him!
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As Tyson said his size was his advantage tall guys found it difficult to hit him and they were used to fighting bigger guys than him, i just can not believe that so many of fans here once they dont have arguments start talking size size size Valuev is much bigger that Wlad and Wlad would murder him!
Tyson has seen hundreds of Wladimir Klitschko's ... but Wladimir Klitschko has never seen a Mike Tyson
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Tyson has seen hundreds of Wladimir Klitschko's ... but Wladimir Klitschko has never seen a Mike Tyson
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40 year old cruiser that Wlad held on to for 2/3's of the fight ≠ Mike Tyson
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