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Old 12-05-2012, 03:32 PM   #31
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Tyson was elusive for 2-3 rounds. Then he got tired as hell and more and more one-dimensional. Yes, even 'prime Tyson'.

Tyson would have his moments early on as he goes for the kill shot in the first 5-6 minutes. If Wlad survives that (if his holding is good enough) he will systematically take Tyson apart and TKO him in the mid/late rounds. Tyson becomes a sitting duck once he shot his load.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:34 PM   #32
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Sickening to watch that excessive illegal holding because he's to cowardly to fight inside. Hes a disgrace to the sport.


Then stop watching the fights.
No one forces you to watch this "disgrace" fight yet i see you nearly on every K2 thread talking shit.

Hate is not constructive bro, hate is destructive and not good for yourself.

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Old 12-05-2012, 03:35 PM   #33
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Maybe in Germany anywhere else i think Wlad would be i great danger of getting DQ loss, Mike would get inside often and we know Wlad would hold and hold again, i meen there was 16 clinches against Mormeck in first round just imagine how much there would be against Tyson.
Just to put this in perspective, Holyfield clinched Tyson an average of 15 times a round. He got away with and Wlad would, too. For the record, I would favor Tyson, but to write Wlad off completely is ridiculous. Wlad has very good footwork, a fantastic jab+right hand and left hook, and is amazingly disciplined at forcing the other guy to fight his fight. He ain't no Tony Tucker.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:44 PM   #34
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The so called "too elusive" Tyson got hitted, and well, even by boxers slower and less accurate than Wlad; and also, his "elusiveness", based on dodging and moving alot, has an high cost, in terms of pure energy (moving the entire torso burns a lot of energy), and also in terms of stunned head; in fact, when the fights went over the first rounds, his "elusiveness" bacame elusive, and progressively less effective.
Finally, even whit a boxer able to dodge everything, without tiring, wlad would still win at points

Wlad doesnt have the agression and chin to afford to go balls out after tyson and really hurt him, and i genuinely think that Tyson would get to him sooner then Wlad would get to Tyson.

I would actually favor Vitali in an all out war against tyson if his skin holds on or doesnt get another freak injury but with Wlad is another matter, wlad is all about finesse, working behind the jab keeping his foe at distance pawing with the left hand and planning the next move, and prime Tyson had the abilities required to beat Wlads style.

True Wlad would grabs anyone who would get past that jab but i still think Tyson would get a sneaky one in sooner or later.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:46 PM   #35
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Yeah like he tried to grab Sanders and got his face bashed in

Tyson is going to land ... only a matter of time ... Wlad most likely gets overwhelmed from the opening bell and gets raped
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:49 PM   #36
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If the fight is in Germany Wlad lasts longer due to the illegal tactics he's allowed to get away with. With a non-corrupt ref though Tyson knocks him out within 5.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:21 PM   #37
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Tyson's best wins:

1. Tony Tucker
2. Larry Holmes (40 years old, coming off 2 year layoff)
3. Michael Spinks (former super middleweight coming off 1 year layoff)
4. Tony Tubbs
5. Trevor Berbick

The only one that's comparable to Wladimir Klitschko is Tony Tucker (6'5", 240's). Tyson fought him in his prime and won a clear decision, but Tucker is not on Wlad's level. It's amazing to me how badly some people overrate Tyson and underrate Klitschko.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:26 PM   #38
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Pinklon Thomas was better than Tubbs or Tucker, a better performance by Tyson too.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:27 PM   #39
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Tyson would have next to zero chance to beat Wlad, I consider Lewis to be the only favourite H2H against him amongst the old greats.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:29 PM   #40
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Tyson would have next to zero chance to beat Wlad, I consider Lewis to be the only favourite H2H against him amongst the old greats.
Because world beaters like Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster only have a chance?

Tyson would knock him back up his mothers skirt
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:33 PM   #41
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Tyson's best wins:

1. Tony Tucker
2. Larry Holmes (40 years old, coming off 2 year layoff)
3. Michael Spinks (former super middleweight coming off 1 year layoff)
4. Tony Tubbs
5. Trevor Berbick

The only one that's comparable to Wladimir Klitschko is Tony Tucker (6'5", 240's). Tyson fought him in his prime and won a clear decision, but Tucker is not on Wlad's level. It's amazing to me how badly some people overrate Tyson and underrate Klitschko.
Without getting into the Wlad-Tyson debate:

Holmes was 38, and while well past his prime still went on to beat Mercer and extend Holyfield and McCall.

Spinks in the latter stages of his career was a genuine (albeit small) heavyweight. As a heavy he was very competitive against Holmes, and handled Cooney without too much trouble.


Tyson's resume isn't amazing by any stretch, but let's not go overboard in discrediting his better wins.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:34 PM   #42
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Because world beaters like Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster only have a chance?

Tyson would knock him back up his mothers skirt

Need I remind you of Tyson's losses, fool? They stack up a lot worse than Wlad's, mind you, momma's basement hater
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:39 PM   #43
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Sam Peter, who is one of the worst World champions ever, got inside, found his way to Wlads chin and had him panicking and flapping around on the ground like a fish out of water.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:46 PM   #44
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Tyson would have next to zero chance to beat Wlad, I consider Lewis to be the only favourite H2H against him amongst the old greats.
Hello fake Jack, why dont you log in under your normal account?
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:50 PM   #45
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Need I remind you of Tyson's losses, fool? They stack up a lot worse than Wlad's, mind you, momma's basement hater
Yeah go ahead and bring up who Tyson lost to when he was shot, on drugs, and only fighting to pay his bills

Ross Puritty was a JOURNEYMAN with 20 losses on his resume and he bounced Wlad around like a pinball and carried him around like a child

Corrie Sanders was effectively retired and fought 3 rounds in 3 years and at the age of 37 his hand speed dumbfounded Wlad. He was a 40-1 under dog and he made Wlad crawl over the canvas like a retard 4 times in 2 rounds. And he took the fight on short notice.

Brewster beat Wlad and made him look like a drunk, with Steward in his corner.

Tyson was the face of boxing and the youngest heavyweight champion ever. His power, speed, and skill were unparalleled and unmatched. Wlad was scared to engage David Haye, he would have an acute MI if he ever fought Tyson.
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