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Old 12-05-2012, 02:03 PM   #16
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If I'm not mistaken, Canelo-Ortiz was agreed upon too.
Yup, It was... & it Prob would have still went ahead except for Ortiz getting "Kanye'd" by Josesito.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #17
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[quote=bballchump11;14335293 naw I'm not that confident in my pick. When the idea of this matchup first came about I was unsure and it took some discussion and thinking to come up with a winner [/quote]


Seeing the number of posts you've done since 2010, a 6 month hiatus would likely put you into deep depression and severe withdrawals. Good call.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:36 PM   #18
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You answered your own question.
rhetorical question to empahsize a point.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:46 PM   #19
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If I'm not mistaken, Canelo-Ortiz was agreed upon too.


Only difference is Trout ain't no JrWW.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:54 PM   #20
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I always thought Canelo would KO Cotto even before last saturday, Cotto hasn't looked good for a while, and at this weight he's too undersized.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:57 PM   #21
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I always thought Canelo would KO Cotto even before last saturday, Cotto hasn't looked good for a while, and at this weight he's too undersized.

Say what?

Cotto was rejuvenated, with a new trainer and at his natural weight when he fought against Floyd! Get out of here, YDKSAB!
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:10 PM   #22
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Trout is hard to hit and Cotto couldn't push him back to the ropes and bull him up close.
Cotto had a hard time getting up close and he had a tough time once he got there vs Trout. Then he had no hope on the outside vs the quick, long and slick southpaw.

Against Canelo, Cotto can outbox him from the outside if he uses his footwork/angles and keeps putting his jab in Canelo's face. Canelo has fast hands, but his feet are slow. Cotto can beat him
Good break down and thank you for replying with intelligence and boxing knowledge.

I too think Cotto could outbox him using quicker feet, but at 154 he can not do that for 12 rounds against a workhorse like Alvarez. Canelo really can bang and knows how to put punches together, up and down. The way Canelo sits on his punches and fires with decent technique is brutal. If Cotto doesn't get Canelos respect or hurts Canelo in the early rounds, by the 6th or 7th Cotto will start breaking down. Canelo will out muscle Cotto on the inside getting to Cotto's body before Miguel can get to his.

Another factor to consider is their mental state. Two losses in a row for Cotto is not good, especially for his mental state. It's not like Miguel doesn't have a chance, it's just that the odds are very much against him.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:26 PM   #23
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If it happen I'd have to favour Canelo to beat this version if Cotto.

Canelo don't seem to want any of No Doubt Trout
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:31 PM   #24
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So was Ortiz now trout has thrown himself into the mix like Jlo and as canelo said cotto has removed himself from the canelo sweepstakes.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:35 PM   #25
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Complete, utter incompetence. This is boxing. Anything can and often does happen.

They should have waited to see how the fight between Cotto an Trout went.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:36 PM   #26
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The lose/lose part about this is once Trout runs into Canelo's left hook & is Knocked out.
People will find reasons to hate on it regardless, it's the way the world.

Potentially Alvarez could have a very impressive 2013.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #27
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Cotto has been good for the game the kind of man I would like my sons to look up to as well.
Do we believe Cotto has declined so much at this point that he would get as tired backing up against the youngster as he did chasing Trout?
Canelo would sure be a horrible guy to be facing when an older guy realizes he has nothing left in the tank.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #28
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Complete, utter incompetence. This is boxing. Anything can and often does happen.

They should have waited to see how the fight between Cotto an Trout went.
Agreed, disrespect towards Trout.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:39 PM   #29
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The lose/lose part about this is once Trout runs into Canelo's left hook & is Knocked out.
People will find reasons to hate on it regardless, it's the way the world.

Potentially Alvarez could have a very impressive 2013.
Agreed. Golden Boy just needs to take the training wheels off him.

Too bad the fight with Williams didn't happen. He would have at least started facing credible opponents by now. Not his fault, but he needs to get going.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:44 PM   #30
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Agreed. Golden Boy just needs to take the training wheels off him.

Too bad the fight with Williams didn't happen. He would have at least started facing credible opponents by now. Not his fault, but he needs to get going.
Not really you know the haters would have been out on full force stating Lara did it first, and he has 2 losses and was passed prime which he was, so that Lara victory is not really that good because Williams was coming off a tko loss that ends careers.
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