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Old 12-05-2012, 06:19 PM   #46
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Some of the greatest athletes of all time haven't been alcoholics!!! You make it sound like a great attribute which it's not...

But I get it... You want to justify Ward fighting Pavlik... Good job...
Im saying simply because hes had a drinking problem doesnt suddenly make him shot.

If he had been beaten by someone he shouldnt have been,then maybe he might be shot. As of now I see no evidence that hes shot.

Ward is better than EVERYONE in the division, hes already cleaned it out.

Is him fighting Pavlik any worse than going back and fighting guys hes already beaten easily?
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:21 PM   #47
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I'm saying he doesn't have a meaningful win at 168 and that includes Rubio.
I've never disparaged his success at 160.
At 168 he's a name opponent because he has done nothing at the weight.
Hes won all his fights at 168 and quite easily. Ive seen nothing to make me think hes "shot".

Mayweather hadnt done anything at 135 when he went up and fought Castillo, but Im sure people thought that it was still a good fight to make.

When Broner went up and fought DeMarco, how many people were saying "Broner has done nothing at LW, this fight shouldnt happen!"
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:27 PM   #48
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Default Re: Pavlik hasn't done much at SMW!

Has he done anything at SMW?

Silly question? Has he done anything at MW for that matter apart from beating taylor?

The guys is a ****ing white alcoholic american hope.

or WAAH for short.

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Old 12-05-2012, 06:36 PM   #49
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Has he done anything at SMW?

Silly question? Has he done anything at MW for that matter apart from beating taylor?

The guys if a ****ing white alcoholic american hope.

or WAAH for short.
Soooo, beating the undisputed champ,and then beating him again is not worthy of mention?
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:40 PM   #50
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Soooo, beating the undisputed champ,and then beating him again is not worthy of mention?
you must of missed the operative word of the they day "apart", in that sentence.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:44 PM   #51
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you must of missed the operative word of the they day "apart", in that sentence.
You cant just say "apart" from a huge point in his career!
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:47 PM   #52
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You cant just say "apart" from a huge point in his career!
give me one more good win that pavlik had "apart" from one Taylor?
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:49 PM   #53
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Pavlik has talent, hes a very decent fighter. . Points losses against elite level fighters is nothing to be put down over. Even with his problems he has come back and won. He deserves none of the shit some of these pisslords have been giving him.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:49 PM   #54
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He's a washed up old has been who was never all that anyway.

Shame on ward tbh, drained Dawson, washed up pavlik.

Not great really is it
If Ward beats Dawson and pavlik, Ward is a legend....

If Calzaghe beats Hopkins and Jones, Calzaghe is EU-trash.....
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:52 PM   #55
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If Ward beats Dawson and pavlik, Ward is a legend....

If Calzaghe beats Hopkins and Jones, Calzaghe is EU-trash.....
Why do people still mention Jones as if he was a good win for Calzaghe.

Hopkins,yes.

Jones was 4-5 years past peak!
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:56 PM   #56
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give me one more good win that pavlik had "apart" from one Taylor?
There's NOTHING else.

Irishny ducked that question by the way.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:58 PM   #57
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S.O.G. picked his toughest opponent to date.
Won't be a pushover.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:59 PM   #58
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There's NOTHING else.

Irishny ducked that question by the way.


he hasnt duck it.

He's just currently searching boxrec to find another good win....

we might be here some time...
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:10 PM   #59
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Why do people still mention Jones as if he was a good win for Calzaghe.

Hopkins,yes.

Jones was 4-5 years past peak!
And Pavlik.............??
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:11 PM   #60
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I think Pavlik is being underrated, he is a dangerous fight for Ward IMO
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