Pavlik hasn't done much at SMW!

[irishny]

Originally Posted by Elvizzz

Some of the greatest athletes of all time haven't been alcoholics!!! You make it sound like a great attribute which it's not...

But I get it... You want to justify Ward fighting Pavlik... Good job...

Im saying simply because hes had a drinking problem doesnt suddenly make him shot.

If he had been beaten by someone he shouldnt have been,then maybe he might be shot. As of now I see no evidence that hes shot.

Ward is better than EVERYONE in the division, hes already cleaned it out.

Is him fighting Pavlik any worse than going back and fighting guys hes already beaten easily?

[irishny]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

I'm saying he doesn't have a meaningful win at 168 and that includes Rubio.
I've never disparaged his success at 160.
At 168 he's a name opponent because he has done nothing at the weight.

Hes won all his fights at 168 and quite easily. Ive seen nothing to make me think hes "shot".

Mayweather hadnt done anything at 135 when he went up and fought Castillo, but Im sure people thought that it was still a good fight to make.

When Broner went up and fought DeMarco, how many people were saying "Broner has done nothing at LW, this fight shouldnt happen!"

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Has he done anything at SMW?

Silly question? Has he done anything at MW for that matter apart from beating taylor?

The guys is a fucking white alcoholic american hope.

or WAAH for short.

[irishny]

Originally Posted by timeout

Has he done anything at SMW?

Silly question? Has he done anything at MW for that matter apart from beating taylor?

The guys if a fucking white alcoholic american hope.

or WAAH for short.

Soooo, beating the undisputed champ,and then beating him again is not worthy of mention?

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Originally Posted by irishny

Soooo, beating the undisputed champ,and then beating him again is not worthy of mention?

you must of missed the operative word of the they day "apart", in that sentence.

[irishny]

Originally Posted by timeout

you must of missed the operative word of the they day "apart", in that sentence.

You cant just say "apart" from a huge point in his career!

[timeout]

Originally Posted by irishny

You cant just say "apart" from a huge point in his career!

give me one more good win that pavlik had "apart" from one Taylor?

[dinovelvet]

Pavlik has talent, hes a very decent fighter. . Points losses against elite level fighters is nothing to be put down over. Even with his problems he has come back and won. He deserves none of the shit some of these pisslords have been giving him.

[Jan(DK)]

Originally Posted by Dai

He's a washed up old has been who was never all that anyway.

Shame on ward tbh, drained Dawson, washed up pavlik.

Not great really is it

If Ward beats Dawson and pavlik, Ward is a legend....

If Calzaghe beats Hopkins and Jones, Calzaghe is EU-trash.....

[irishny]

Originally Posted by Jan(DK)

If Ward beats Dawson and pavlik, Ward is a legend....

If Calzaghe beats Hopkins and Jones, Calzaghe is EU-trash.....

Why do people still mention Jones as if he was a good win for Calzaghe.

Hopkins,yes.

Jones was 4-5 years past peak!

[Tyler-Durden]

Originally Posted by timeout

give me one more good win that pavlik had "apart" from one Taylor?

There's NOTHING else.

Irishny ducked that question by the way.

[HeGlassedMe]

S.O.G. picked his toughest opponent to date.
Won't be a pushover.

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Originally Posted by Tyler-Durden

There's NOTHING else.

Irishny ducked that question by the way.

he hasnt duck it.

He's just currently searching boxrec to find another good win....

we might be here some time...

[Jan(DK)]

Originally Posted by irishny

Why do people still mention Jones as if he was a good win for Calzaghe.

Hopkins,yes.

Jones was 4-5 years past peak!

And Pavlik.............??

[MidniteProwler]

I think Pavlik is being underrated, he is a dangerous fight for Ward IMO