Pavlik hasn't done much at SMW!

[t.reznor]

By Ward's standards, considering Pavlik's recent opposition, I'm surprised to see he finds him "worthy". When was the last time Pavlik fought a top 10 guy, at any weight? Two and a half years ago? So that's how long he can carry his 'name' for, I guess.

Originally Posted by Hermit

He has actually fought at the weight which is a hell of a lot more than Yusaf Mack

Mack lost to both Berrio & Andrade @ 168. Just saying he did fight at the weight.

[WatchfortheHook]

Originally Posted by irishny

Hes won all his fights at 168 and quite easily. Ive seen nothing to make me think hes "shot".

Mayweather hadnt done anything at 135 when he went up and fought Castillo, but Im sure people thought that it was still a good fight to make.

When Broner went up and fought DeMarco, how many people were saying "Broner has done nothing at LW, this fight shouldnt happen!"

I can't say if Pavlik is shot. I don't think beating an alcoholic makes him shot. However, there was that fight against club fighter Alfonso Lopez. Some fans of his on here will blame it on a bad camp....but he looked terrible against a guy who subsequently lost every round to Dyah Davis and then to another 3-5 record club fighter. He should have been able to mow him down with a terrible camp. That's a red flag.

I personally think if Pavlik of 2007 fought Rosinsky he would have mowed him down. Some fans of his will point to adjustments in tactics.

Both could possibly be true. All I'm pointing out is that people aren't just saying it because "Pavlik's an alcoholic'.

And, if the fight is a wipeout, I'm somewhat predicting some of his own fans will ponder on this board whether he is shot or not. It's happened before (after Martinez).

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by t.reznor

By Ward's standards, considering Pavlik's recent opposition, I'm surprised to see he finds him "worthy". When was the last time Pavlik fought a top 10 guy, at any weight? Two and a half years ago? So that's how long he can carry his 'name' for, I guess.



Mack lost to both Berrio & Andrade @ 168. Just saying he did fight at the weight.

What is it about 2 thousand fucking seven is giving people problems here? That was FIVE years ago.

[t.reznor]

Originally Posted by Hermit

What is it about 2 thousand fucking seven is giving people problems here? That was FIVE years ago.

You sound pretty mad. How's your blood pressure?

I'm sure Rosinsky was super high on the WBA & WBC rankings for Pavlik to get a ranking hike out of it. And you're dissin Mack.

[Tyler-Durden]

Five years ago, just the same as Pavlik's last significant win.

You just pwned yourself.

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by t.reznor

You sound pretty mad. How's your blood pressure?

I'm sure Rosinsky was super high on the WBA & WBC rankings for Pavlik to get a ranking hike out of it. And you're dissin Mack.

OK, troll, whatever. Nobody can be this stupid without trying.