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Old 12-06-2012, 12:24 AM   #31
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all this overhyping of R. Duran!!!! everytime i remember the dude fighting someone great he lost!!! When he did beat a caliber of Oscar?? Hearns and Benitez made him look like a fool!!! Oscar wins a wide unanimous decision!!!
^Leonard, but that's about it
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:10 AM   #32
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Oscar doesn't have a shot in Hell at beating Duran at any weight. The end.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:12 AM   #33
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^Leonard, but that's about it
Leonard wasn't the calibre of Oscar.

Leonard was several levels above Oscar.

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Old 12-06-2012, 01:30 AM   #34
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Alot of people are saying this fight is goin the distance...Why!?
Because Duran didn't carry the same punch at 147 (although he could hurt plenty) and Oscar could take one pretty well.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:12 AM   #35
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Leonard wasn't the calibre of Oscar.

Leonard was several levels above Oscar.

You boxing newbies amuse me.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:31 AM   #36
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While Oscar De La Hoya was good at using his almost 6' frame, and had a great jab. He was never a off the back foot classic boxer. I'd call him a lesser version of pre Duran I Ray Leonard who in turn may be a lesser version of Ray Robinson. The nearest fight I can think of when trying to figure what this fight looks like is Duran/Leonard I. That fight could have gone either way.
If Leonard/Duran I could have gone either way dose this mean that Duran would beat De La Hoya who I belive to be a lesser version of Leonard? I'm not sure. De La Hoya has been with a pretty good group of boxers. John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez, Pernell Whitaker, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad & Shane Mosley. Only losing to the last two.
He also beat [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (twice) & [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] who he knocked down. Which is no easy task. Duran was Leonard's second defense. It was his 27th fight. De La Hoya beat Camacho in his 25th fight in his second defense of his welterweight championship. By this time The Golden Boy may had been in with better boxers than Leonard was in against by the first Duran fight. De La Hoya is also a better puncher scoring 21 stoppages in those 25 bouts. Leonard had 18 in 27 bouts.
The saying goes Styles makes fights. I also beleive that when a tall fighter doesn't take advntage of his advantages. He will get taken advantage of. Like I said De La Hoya isn't a classic off rbe back foot boxer.
I do think this plays out like The first Duran Leonard, and it will come down to who the jdges like better.

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Old 12-06-2012, 02:44 AM   #37
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While Oscar De La Hoya was good at using his almost 6' frame, and had a great jab. He was never a off the back foot classic boxer. I'd call him a lesser version of pre Duran I Ray Leonard who in turn may be a lesser version of Ray Robinson. The nearest fight I can think of when trying to figure what this fight looks like is Duran/Leonard I. That fight could have gone either way.
If Leonard/Duran I could have gone either way dose this mean that Duran would beat De La Hoya who I belive to be a lesser version of Leonard? I'm not sure. De La Hoya has been with a pretty good group of boxers. John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez, Pernell Whitaker, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad & Shane Mosley. Only losing to the last two.
Plain and simple Duran was just to ferocious for Oscar..
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sit your "takes pride in post count on a forum" ass down

Its true..Loenard would have killed DLH....Sorry my man.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:48 AM   #39
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Because Duran didn't carry the same punch at 147 (although he could hurt plenty) and Oscar could take one pretty well.
So are you questioning both these guys legacy at 147 0r 154?
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Leonard wasn't the calibre of Oscar.

Leonard was several levels above Oscar.

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Old 12-06-2012, 02:51 AM   #41
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Leonard Vs. DLH..does Oscar even make it out of the 3rd round!?.....
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Its true..Loenard would have killed DLH....Sorry my man.
I said nothing about Leonard fighting De La Hoya, now sit your sensitive emoting ass down.
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So are you questioning both these guys legacy at 147 0r 154?
No, I answered your question.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:01 AM   #44
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[quote=PhillyPhan69;14335418]I am going to log off for about two days (or two weeks whichever is safer) the second I post this....I think DLH gives him a great fight....If forced to fall of the fence I will give a slim decision victory vote to DLH....Over 12 anyway.[/quote

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Old 12-06-2012, 03:02 AM   #45
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And where does DLH have a better chance..147..or..154??????
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