If Floyd Mayweather Jr fought in the 80's, he'd be one of the FAB. It'd be the Fab 5 - Page 6

dyna · 12-06-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vidic

Floyd is like James Toney, whether or not when (if) he had stepped up to Welter in the 80s I don't think he gets knocked out by anyone, it could be a case of him being to small and getting outpointed or outworked, but its straight up disrespect to his defensive skills to suggest he'd get 'decapitated' by all of them.

He might beat Duran at 130.
And it´s a might, I favour Duran.
Maybe at higher weight depending how much better he can take the extra weight.

Brian · 12-06-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vidic

Floyd is like James Toney, whether or not when (if) he had stepped up to Welter in the 80s I don't think he gets knocked out by anyone, it could be a case of him being to small and getting outpointed or outworked, but its straight up disrespect to his defensive skills to suggest he'd get 'decapitated' by all of them.

I was just thinking this.

The 'settled in' version of Mayweather is who we saw vs Mosley, who was still a damn good version, just more stationary. The Mayweather that fought Hatton still had the wheels, but is likely too small.

Quincy K · 12-06-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

I was just thinking this.

The settled in' version of Mayweather is who we saw vs Mosley, who was still a damn good version, just more stationary. The Mayweather that fought Hatton still had the wheels, but is likely too small.

if floyd tried to "settle in" with duran, leonard or tommy he gets "settled"...quick, too.

the only way he could beat duran, because he would have very little shot at leonard and no shot at tommy, would be to move, move and continue to move.

once he tries to settle in with duran, roberto would settle who is the better inside fighter like he did against leonard the first fight.

Quincy K · 12-06-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna

He might beat Duran at 130.
Maybe at higher weight depending how much better he can take the extra weight.

And it´s a might, I favour Duran.

i think just the opposite. floyd would have a better chance at the higher weights because duran was a straight out killer under 147.

leone25 · 12-06-2012, 10:06 AM

He would duck all of them.. Floyd retired when he saw Mosley, Cotto, and Margarito were killing each other

dyna · 12-06-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Quincy K

i think just the opposite. floyd would have a better chance at the higher weights because duran was a straight out killer under 147.

My third sentence "was at the wrong place" so to speak, I meant to say that I would favour Duran at 130, and I implied Mayweather takes weight better.

elchivito · 12-06-2012, 10:47 AM

130 and 135 its too close to call, maybe a draw. Floyd has no chance at 147 at least Montreal version of Duran which was the best. 154 I might favor Floyd, but then 154 was Tommy's best weight and I don't expect Floyd to have Tomnys speed or power at 154, but he could of replicated what Benitez and Laing did tho Duran had a different style by then, more conservative and his legs and speed were gone. 160 remains to be seen.

Montero · 12-06-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthpawJab

If we're talking fab 4's nowhere as good as the original, how about Castillo/Corralles/Casamayor/Mayweather.

Except the Fab Four you listed is mythical, never happened, and features only one sure fire HOF'er. The featherweight-lightweight Fab Four I mentioned actually did happen, features 4 sure fire HOF'ers and the fighter of this generation.

Knickerbocker · 12-06-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Montero

Do you honestly think Floyd would fight any of these guys?

Duran (5'7", 66" reach, started at LW) - Floyd might fight him due to size
Leonard (5'10", 74" reach, legit WW) - doubt that Floyd fights him
Hagler (5'9", 75" reach, career MW) - Floyd wouldn't go near him
Hearns (6'1", 78" reach, huge WW) - Floyd avoids him until he's lost a few

Based on what we've seen of Floyd over his entire career, I think he'd probably only face 2 of the Fab 4. He's got the talent to hang with all 4 of these guys, but he doesn't have the balls to face them.

prelude · 12-06-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MVC

Doubt it.

Floyd would face them and win some, lose some. It'd be great.

Floyd wouldn't even face an Asian midget what make you think he'll face them

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JohnAnthony · 12-06-2012, 12:41 PM

i doubt floyd fights any of them tbh. definetly not in there prime. he's price himself out or he'd claim he can't work with there promoter.

Imperial1 · 12-06-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vidic

Floyd is like James Toney, whether or not when (if) he had stepped up to Welter in the 80s I don't think he gets knocked out by anyone, it could be a case of him being to small and getting outpointed or outworked, but its straight up disrespect to his defensive skills to suggest he'd get 'decapitated' by all of them.

This is the same Floyd that was rocked by feather fisted Demarcus Corley and an old Shane Mosley ..Hearns or Hagler would have knocked his block off ..

eliqueiros · 12-06-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by knockout artist

The only fights Floyd could win would be against Duran at 147 or 154. Leonard and Hearns would decapitate him.

Mayweather-Benitez would be very very interesting though

Duran would kill Floyd, man.

Floyd wouldn't want to get knocked out in public and just avoid him.

tliang1000 · 12-06-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

Cotto was not a great like Hearns,Hagler,Duran and Benitez and Leonard. Neither was Castillo. I love Miguel as a fighter, but he lost to the elite level. Castillo was good, but not great. Floyd has not tried to fight the best. He really thinks he is going to fool people about his legacy. Fact is he has to fight Pacman. Even if he loses, it is better that he fight Pacman and lose then to not fight him at all. And I think Floyd can beat Manny.

Bullshit Floyd has fought more champion/contenders than Leonard. Just bc he doesn't have a opponent who is as popular as SRL, Hearns, or Duran doesn't mean his career was shit. At most it just means he may have a loss or two on his record.

And again, people who is holding on his struggling win over Castillo or Cotto needs to do some research that ALL OF THE ELITES IN THE PAST HAVE STRUGGLED as well. Most of them have losses against people they shouldn't even lose too. Only dumb ignorant poster will post that type of shit.

tliang1000 · 12-06-2012, 02:29 PM

The Fab four i wouldn't count Floyd out in defeating Duran at 130-140 or SRL at 130-140 range. It wouldn't be fair to pit him against them in higher weights bc they are all naturally bigger guys then him.

You put Floyd along with Pep, Camacho, and Whitaker then you know Floyd would be the boss. Those ATGs lack the size or power to prevent Floyd from outboxing their ears off.

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leone25 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,689 vCash: 500	Re: If Floyd Mayweather Jr fought in the 80's, he'd be one of the FAB. It'd be the Fa He would duck all of them.. Floyd retired when he saw Mosley, Cotto, and Margarito were killing each other
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elchivito master betty East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: section 8 Posts: 13,640 vCash: 130	Re: If Floyd Mayweather Jr fought in the 80's, he'd be one of the FAB. It'd be the Fa 130 and 135 its too close to call, maybe a draw. Floyd has no chance at 147 at least Montreal version of Duran which was the best. 154 I might favor Floyd, but then 154 was Tommy's best weight and I don't expect Floyd to have Tomnys speed or power at 154, but he could of replicated what Benitez and Laing did tho Duran had a different style by then, more conservative and his legs and speed were gone. 160 remains to be seen.
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JohnAnthony P4P Number 1 Poster ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,911 vCash: 272	Re: If Floyd Mayweather Jr fought in the 80's, he'd be one of the FAB. It'd be the Fa i doubt floyd fights any of them tbh. definetly not in there prime. he's price himself out or he'd claim he can't work with there promoter.
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tliang1000 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,050 vCash: 79444	Re: If Floyd Mayweather Jr fought in the 80's, he'd be one of the FAB. It'd be the Fa The Fab four i wouldn't count Floyd out in defeating Duran at 130-140 or SRL at 130-140 range. It wouldn't be fair to pit him against them in higher weights bc they are all naturally bigger guys then him. You put Floyd along with Pep, Camacho, and Whitaker then you know Floyd would be the boss. Those ATGs lack the size or power to prevent Floyd from outboxing their ears off.
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