Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

[UnleashtheFURY]

7' inches taller
14 inch reach advantage
50+ lbs heavier

Skill sets aside... Rocky gets annihilated.. Weight classes exist for a reason.

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[Seamus]

Originally Posted by fists of fury

Bigger & stronger doesn't necessarily mean harder puncher though. Earlier tonight I watched Pulev vs Ustinov...jab aside, Pulev punches all wrong. His left hook is a wide, slapping punch and he doesn't put his shoulder into his right hand.
Now he may be bigger and stronger than Walcott (well, he is, no debate there) but Walcott could deliver a left hook with torque and leverage behind it. It was a short, sharp punch, as a hook should be.
Frankly, I'd rather be hit by Pulev than Walcott.

Wlad has faced some hitters fair enough, but to insinuate simply because Thompson or McCline are big and therefor big punchers (or rather, dangerous punchers) is wrong, imo.

There is a point of diminishing returns, yes, but Wlad is at the upper end of the great returns. So were Foreman, Lewis, Ruddock, Ibeabuchi...

[HOUDINI]

You can look at it any way you want but great fighters just don't Lose fights the way Wlad lost not once but three times. Sloppy, falling in sections with the scared look as if he wanted to give up. When Rocky hits him square and he would the fights over.

[HOUDINI]

Also there are weight divisions to aide the lower weight divisions. All through boxing history the hwt division is considered unlimited. 5 pounds can mean a lot to a featherweight but is meaningless at the higher weights. Size in of itself is not an advantage unless the opponent is inferior. If the choice is size or speed Id pick the quicker fighter any day. Why is everyone impressed with large immobile slow fighters who can't really fight? Does anyone know anymore what great fighting is all about?

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

You can look at it any way you want but great fighters just don't Lose fights the way Wlad lost not once but three times. Sloppy, falling in sections with the scared look as if he wanted to give up. When Rocky hits him square and he would the fights over.

This is getting ridiculous.

[Garrus]

Houdini is 100% right.

He smart. you dumb orriray

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

Also there are weight divisions to aide the lower weight divisions. All through boxing history the hwt division is considered unlimited. 5 pounds can mean a lot to a featherweight but is meaningless at the higher weights. Size in of itself is not an advantage unless the opponent is inferior. If the choice is size or speed Id pick the quicker fighter any day. Why is everyone impressed with large immobile slow fighters who can't really fight? Does anyone know anymore what great fighting is all about?

the difference is closer to 50 pounds than 5.

Rocky will not have the reach to reach him let alone knock him out. Unless wlad gasses late on he will dominate the man he outweighs so much the fight wouldn't get realistically made.

[Mega Lamps]

I have a hard time seeing Klitschko win. Bad matchup for him stylistically and he was weary of Ibragimov; I imagine Marciano would be much more worrisome for here.

[HOUDINI]

Let's see.....Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Ali, .......did any of these fighters lose a fight to a larger fighter? The first three knocked out every large hwt they ever faced. Louis was heavily outweighed in two bouts with Buddy Baer, a deadly hitter and twice with Abe Simon. He scored knockouts in all four bouts. he had no issues reaching the much larger fighters chin. I see no reason why Rocky would not reach Wlads less than iron chin encased in his not so courageous body. Wlad is certainly there to be hit and Marciano s going to look quick in comparison. Everyone knows the toughness that Marciano possessed and we also know what happens when Wlad gets cracked. Eventually Marciano hits him on the chin....more than likely Rocky could take rounds of punishment if need be but along the way he is going to land..... Don't see Wad with his poor history taking punishment not going down in sections. If you think for a second that Purity, Brewster etc could ko Wlad but Rocky Marciano could not your fooling yourself.

[dinovelvet]

Wlad never beat anybody like the rock. Ever.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Wlad never beat anybody like the rock. Ever.

Due to the advent of the cruiserweight division and sympathetic commissions, they would not allow such a physical mismatch.

You should check out the parking lot. Someone might be sitting on your IROC.

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

Let's see.....Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Ali, .......did any of these fighters lose a fight to a larger fighter? The first three knocked out every large hwt they ever faced. Louis was heavily outweighed in two bouts with Buddy Baer, a deadly hitter and twice with Abe Simon. He scored knockouts in all four bouts. he had no issues reaching the much larger fighters chin. I see no reason why Rocky would not reach Wlads less than iron chin encased in his not so courageous body. Wlad is certainly there to be hit and Marciano s going to look quick in comparison. Everyone knows the toughness that Marciano possessed and we also know what happens when Wlad gets cracked. Eventually Marciano hits him on the chin....more than likely Rocky could take rounds of punishment if need be but along the way he is going to land..... Don't see Wad with his poor history taking punishment not going down in sections. If you think for a second that Purity, Brewster etc could ko Wlad but Rocky Marciano could not your fooling yourself.

the fight would never even be sanctioned such is the scale of the mismatch.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Seamus

Due to the advent of the cruiserweight division and sympathetic commissions, they would not allow such a physical mismatch.

You should check out the parking lot. Someone might be sitting on your IROC.

That does not pertain to the statement i made.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

Let's see.....Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Ali, .......did any of these fighters lose a fight to a larger fighter? The first three knocked out every large hwt they ever faced. Louis was heavily outweighed in two bouts with Buddy Baer, a deadly hitter and twice with Abe Simon. He scored knockouts in all four bouts. he had no issues reaching the much larger fighters chin. I see no reason why Rocky would not reach Wlads less than iron chin encased in his not so courageous body. Wlad is certainly there to be hit and Marciano s going to look quick in comparison. Everyone knows the toughness that Marciano possessed and we also know what happens when Wlad gets cracked. Eventually Marciano hits him on the chin....more than likely Rocky could take rounds of punishment if need be but along the way he is going to land..... Don't see Wad with his poor history taking punishment not going down in sections. If you think for a second that Purity, Brewster etc could ko Wlad but Rocky Marciano could not your fooling yourself.

Ah, you're right. Those men have never lost to a taller man, and Wladimir is a taller man. Reason and logic points to them beating him seeing as they have a 100% win ratio against taller men than them.

[orriray59]

Wlad never beat anybody like the rock. Ever.

That does not pertain to the statement i made.

You come off as somebody who doesn't have a clue about the point they're trying to make. You have no reasoning as to why you pick Marciano, so you say, "Uh, yeah... Wlad, he never beat anybody like Marciano. Yeah. That's right."

Which means fucking nothing, seeing as Rocky hasn't beaten anybody like Wlad. It literally means nothing.
I doubt you'll see your hypocrisy, but fuck it.