How can people call Klitschko an ATG?

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by On The Money

Such a misinformed and innacurate post. Wlad haters do not improve with the years, even though the man's been at the top for so long and is a credit to boxing, making lots of dough for everybody in the game. The thought of going back to the ABC belt holders we had during other eras and lesser attendances in glorified halls instead of football stadiums means nothing. And mate, Sanders, god rest him, chose to relinquish the WBO belt for the vastly bigger payday verses Vitali. Wlad did not dodge the guy at all. No doubt you were one of the roasters that claimed Haye would knock him out and is still hurting.

Explain to me in detail whats innacurate about it?

Why would Sanders duck Wlad who he destroyed in two rounds? Sanders had two options:
1. Defend his WB0 title against mando Brewster for little money.
2. Fight for the vacant WBC against Vitali and earn a career high payday.

You dont have a clue mate. Brewster hadn't beat Wlad yet and was a no name. Sander's was getting old and went where the money was. He did not duck a rematch.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by On The Money

Such a misinformed and innacurate post. Wlad haters do not improve with the years, even though the man's been at the top for so long and is a credit to boxing, making lots of dough for everybody in the game. The thought of going back to the ABC belt holders we had during other eras and lesser attendances in glorified halls instead of football stadiums means nothing. And mate, Sanders, god rest him, chose to relinquish the WBO belt for the vastly bigger payday verses Vitali. Wlad did not dodge the guy at all. No doubt you were one of the roasters that claimed Haye would knock him out and is still hurting.

Is he making dough for me? Why should i care? What a moronic statment.

[DREAMCATCHER]

Easy....open you mouth and say these words:

Klitschko is an ATG.

[SimplyTheBest]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Is he making dough for me? Why should i care? What a moronic statment.

Man, read before you talk...he said "in the game". Who are you exactly? Nobody.

[DREAMCATCHER]

Im guessing Dai is another of these Hendo/Michiganwarrior type posters! LOL.

[Cletis VanDamme]

I love this logic that you can't be an ATG when you haven't beaten one.

Both could have fought and beaten at least one had the opportunity presented itself.
If Tyson hadn't been beaten by Danny Williams, Vitali would have had a chance to scalp an old past prime Tyson and if Holyfield had beaten Ibragimov, Wlad could have gotten his.
Not that beating aging and past prime former greats would give anymore indication on their status. But again, haters would probably be dissing by using an other angle.

[DREAMCATCHER]

Just stop responding to this thread the T.S is clearly a simpleton. He doesn't deserve your time folks.

[On The Money]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Is he making dough for me? Why should i care? What a moronic statment.

Empty vessels like this guy should do us all a favour and stop posting in the forum. Moronic is a compliement.

[DREAMCATCHER]

Originally Posted by On The Money

Empty vessels like this guy should do us all a favour and stop posting in the forum. Moronic is a compliement.

That photo man..

Freaky!

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by On The Money

Empty vessels like this guy should do us all a favour and stop posting in the forum. Moronic is a compliement.

Why should i care, as a spector who only want's to see decent fights, how much money he generates?

You cant answer that and you cant answer how my first post, which you claimed , was inaccurate. Instead you threw a sulk and came back with a pathetic insult. You proved to be a wothless hit and run stlye poster with nothing to back up your argurments. You're done.

[Manning]

Originally Posted by Faerun

I consider Wlad an ATG and have Tyson ranked below him so we're not disagreeing. However, one can make a good case for Wlad (and Tyson) not being ATGs. It's all subjective of course and it depends what your ATG criteria are and how you weigh them. Tyson was the youngest HW champ ever and that's a tremendous achievement, probably better than everything either Klit has accomplished in their careers combined. On the other hand, one could argue that Berbick was a poor champ so it's up to you.

Klittard ignorance is the main annoyance factor here. Unless you agree with their opinion, you're clearly a troll, hater, brittard and deserve a ban. Yeah, right.

He wasn't.

[Manning]

Originally Posted by Big Left

Put it this way - what Goalota is to Wach is pretty much what Lewis is to Wlad. (ie. levels above in terms of ability).

Imagine how easily Golota would have mauled his way through this era. The likes of Brewster, Ruiz, Adamek, Byrd and Austin all would have been KO'd early by him.

[madballster]

Originally Posted by Faerun

Tyson was the youngest HW champ ever and that's a tremendous achievement, probably better than everything either Klit has accomplished in their careers combined

How is that a major achievement that negates Wlad's multiple year reign as the king of the HW hill?

Aside from that, the youngest, the oldest, the lightest, to heaviest. Why would anyone earn ATG points for these? Did Valuev earn points because he was the tallest belt holder ever?

[Faerun]

Originally Posted by madballster

How is that a major achievement that negates Wlad's multiple year reign as the king of the HW hill?

Aside from that, the youngest, the oldest, the lightest, to heaviest. Why would anyone earn ATG points for these? Did Valuev earn points because he was the tallest belt holder ever?

Dude, that's terrible logic. Shove off.

[madballster]

Originally Posted by Faerun

Dude, that's terrible logic. Shove off.

If you'd argue how Tyson's aggregate fight purses are 10x higher than what both K brothers earned in their career I would just nod in approval. If you'd argue Tyson crossed over into the mainstream like the K never did nor will, who wouldn't agree?

But that a single win in Tyson's career - at a young age - is more valuable in ATG terms than 100 fights between both K brothers is just childish and ridiculous. And you know it