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Old 12-07-2012, 07:04 PM   #16
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1983! Wow it sounds like he could have given Moses a run for the money.
Once the Leonard/Britton fight was brought up I tried to find information to conferm rather or not it was the right answer. One site I found, and I don't have the link. Suguests that Britton claimed the knockdown was a foul, but the reff and everyone else who saw the punch saw it as clean. During the count Leonard it Britton who slumped down. It suguests that Britton was also in on the fix. In some way or another.
It was by all accounts a legitimate solar plexus shot that dropped Britton.
Leonard would have been WARNED at the most if it was just a foul shot in the labonza . So Leonard to "follow orders", had no other choice but to
foul out Britton who might not have beaten the 10 count...
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:08 PM   #17
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Yea these threads are great. Thanks Bert.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:26 PM   #18
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I don't think the "dive" was all that secret. I remember reading about it in the Ring Magazine in the late fifties or early sixties.

It was more like the LaMotta thing. It just confirmed what everyone had always suspected.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:53 PM   #19
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Hmm, interesting thought BB. It does seem out of character for Leonard to lose his head.

What did his manager have to gain by coming out with a false claim about his fighter? One possibility: maybe he wanted attention. He could have felt that he was unfairly shunted aside into anonymity with the passage. Maybe he was trying to force himself into history with an extravagent lie.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:36 PM   #20
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Hmm, interesting thought BB. It does seem out of character for Leonard to lose his head.

What did his manager have to gain by coming out with a false claim about his fighter? One possibility: maybe he wanted attention. He could have felt that he was unfairly shunted aside into anonymity with the passage. Maybe he was trying to force himself into history with an extravagent lie.
Mannie Seamon's reputation was secured more so with the immortal Joe Louis,when Jack blackburn died and Louis's braintrust chose Mannie Seaman to supplant Chappie Blackburn as chief trainer...Seamon had NADA to gain by disclosing his hidden "secret". Knowing that his life was ending
soon,and all participants were dead, Seamon unburdened his soul to a boxing writer finally...
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