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Old 12-07-2012, 05:35 PM   #16
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I think Ali's vulnerability to the left hook will always give Frazier stylistic advantage. If we're talking a peak Frazier here I think he has a better chance of knocking out Ali from 66/67. I feel Ali's chin was not as steardy as most make it out to be and hadn't fully developed till around about the first FOTC. I'll take Joe by a closer decision than the FOTC, but there's a chance Frazier gets him out of there late on.

Norton will always match up well against Ali, but the foot speed would be too much for Ken to cope with. Ali can coast to a competitive decision on the outside for most of the night 145-140 style
not being funny here mate but could you explain how Ali's chin 'hadnt fully developed'
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:37 PM   #17
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2 fights with 18 rounds and still rusty???

Prime frazier Beats any version of Ali
Prime Frazier & Norton weren't afraid / bothered by all of Ali's bull frap.

So, Ali's edge was immediately gone. (Bonavena and Chuvalo pretty much felt the same way too).
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:52 PM   #18
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Chuvalo and Patterson were the only 2 fighters to face ali in the 60s and 70s. Which one was the best in their eyes? There's no contest - the answer 60s Ali.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:58 PM   #19
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66/67 Ali would take Norton and Frazier apart.

You guys are using drugs.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:11 PM   #20
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66/67 Ali would take Norton and Frazier apart.

You guys are using drugs.
Karl Mildenberger hung in with Ali.....that was the caliber of fighters Clay/Ali was fighting at that time.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:35 PM   #21
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Karl Mildenberger hung in with Ali.....that was the caliber of fighters Clay/Ali was fighting at that time.
Sometimes a fighter fights to the level of the competition.

And Bonaveno went the distance with Frazier, twice, and put him on his ass, and got stopped by past-prime Ali.
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66 or 67 Ali Destroys Frazier.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:37 AM   #23
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66 or 67 Ali Destroys Frazier.
Go back to your own thread dweeb!
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:20 AM   #24
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2 fights with 18 rounds and still rusty???

Prime frazier Beats any version of Ali

Still not very much action in three and a half years. Not enough to face a Joe Frazier ! Not that I'm detracting from Frazier's fine victory.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:37 PM   #25
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We saw peak Frazier and peak Norton, but very likely didn't see peak Clay/Ali. Stylistically, Frazier and Norton didn't suit Ali. But the speed, accuracy and sheer class of the peak Ali we never saw gets my vote over both.
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