Who has Marquez beaten in the Welterweight Division?

[davebenoit]

Anyone?

Aside from Pac, did he fight an elite figher after he was beaten shamefully by Floyd? Has he proven himself worthy of being in the junior or welterweight division?

[Hatesrats]

Do you watch boxing?
(Can you understand the BUSINESS)

[Slickstar]

They could have made the fight at light welterweight, but we know manny is magically no longer a small welter when it's time to fight smaller men.

[megavolt]

Originally Posted by davebenoit

Has he proven himself worthy of being in the junior or welterweight division?

Originally Posted by davebenoit

Aside from Pac, did he fight an elite figher after he was beaten shamefully by Floyd?

Originally Posted by davebenoit

Aside from Pac, did he fight an elite figher

Originally Posted by davebenoit

Aside from Pac

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[Boxing Fanatic]

nobody

[Kid Cubano]

Does pacquiao count?

[thawk888]

Yo daddy

[PaoloMirani]

I'll go ahead and say it....JMM's style deosn't mesh well with anyone with a longer reach. ie pretty much anyone in ww. Longer reach draws a smaller counterpuncher out of his shell. Floyd toying with him is the obvious example...but this would pretty much be the case with anyone whop can pepper him from the outside. Even smaller guys who fight outside gives him trouble ie Chris John. This is the tactical disadvantage JMM would face when facing bigger longer guys...then you add in the physical disadvantages in size and pwoer. If he campaigned at welter he would've lost several times and never would have gotten his big money paydays against Pac.

[IntentionalButt]

His first welterweight victory will be a doozy.

[davebenoit]

He only waits for Pacquiao for the money. Marquez is just playing safe. He ducks Bradley, Rios, Khan, Rios Alvarado, etc. in the junior welterweight and Guerrero, Ortiz, Brook, etc. in the welterweight. He knows that it is too risky fighting the other welters or else a fat pay with Pacquiao will be jeopardized.

In comparison, Pacquaio has the best in the welterweight like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosley, Hatton, dela Hoya or even the young Bradley whom he convincingly beaten.

Marquez is therefore a businessman, not a real great boxer that some ESBs are trying to portray. If you want to be great boxer, you should beat all the best, and not duck them.

[davebenoit]

Originally Posted by Hatesrats

Do you watch boxing?
(Can you understand the BUSINESS)

That's a very good reason why he ducks the elite fighters in the 140-147 division. He waits only for Pacquiao for the fat money.

[davebenoit]

Originally Posted by PaoloMirani

I'll go ahead and say it....JMM's style deosn't mesh well with anyone with a longer reach. ie pretty much anyone in ww. Longer reach draws a smaller counterpuncher out of his shell. Floyd toying with him is the obvious example...but this would pretty much be the case with anyone whop can pepper him from the outside. Even smaller guys who fight outside gives him trouble ie Chris John. This is the tactical disadvantage JMM would face when facing bigger longer guys...then you add in the physical disadvantages in size and pwoer. If he campaigned at welter he would've lost several times and never would have gotten his big money paydays against Pac.

I agree. He is a boxer with less impressive resume. He's pretending to be a welterweight when he's not.

[davebenoit]

Originally Posted by Kid Cubano

Does pacquiao count?

He lost to Pac twice right?

[oibighead]

Shit thread

[davebenoit]

Originally Posted by oibighead

Shit thread

Simply, answer the question. Who has Marquez beaten in the welterweight division? He's even ducking feather fisted Malignaggi.