66/67 Ali v peak frazier and norton

[johnmaff36]

Originally Posted by Webbiano

I think Ali's vulnerability to the left hook will always give Frazier stylistic advantage. If we're talking a peak Frazier here I think he has a better chance of knocking out Ali from 66/67. I feel Ali's chin was not as steardy as most make it out to be and hadn't fully developed till around about the first FOTC. I'll take Joe by a closer decision than the FOTC, but there's a chance Frazier gets him out of there late on.

Norton will always match up well against Ali, but the foot speed would be too much for Ken to cope with. Ali can coast to a competitive decision on the outside for most of the night 145-140 style

not being funny here mate but could you explain how Ali's chin 'hadnt fully developed'

[Longhhorn71]

Originally Posted by avo

2 fights with 18 rounds and still rusty???

Prime frazier Beats any version of Ali

Prime Frazier & Norton weren't afraid / bothered by all of Ali's bull frap.

So, Ali's edge was immediately gone. (Bonavena and Chuvalo pretty much felt the same way too).

[groove]

Chuvalo and Patterson were the only 2 fighters to face ali in the 60s and 70s. Which one was the best in their eyes? There's no contest - the answer 60s Ali.

[Ramon Rojo]

66/67 Ali would take Norton and Frazier apart.

You guys are using drugs.

[Longhhorn71]

Originally Posted by Ramon Rojo

66/67 Ali would take Norton and Frazier apart.

You guys are using drugs.

Karl Mildenberger hung in with Ali.....that was the caliber of fighters Clay/Ali was fighting at that time.

[cuchulain]

Originally Posted by Longhhorn71

Karl Mildenberger hung in with Ali.....that was the caliber of fighters Clay/Ali was fighting at that time.

Sometimes a fighter fights to the level of the competition.

And Bonaveno went the distance with Frazier, twice, and put him on his ass, and got stopped by past-prime Ali.

[TheSouthpaw]

66 or 67 Ali Destroys Frazier.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

66 or 67 Ali Destroys Frazier.

Go back to your own thread dweeb!

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by avo

2 fights with 18 rounds and still rusty???

Prime frazier Beats any version of Ali

Still not very much action in three and a half years. Not enough to face a Joe Frazier ! Not that I'm detracting from Frazier's fine victory.

We saw peak Frazier and peak Norton, but very likely didn't see peak Clay/Ali. Stylistically, Frazier and Norton didn't suit Ali. But the speed, accuracy and sheer class of the peak Ali we never saw gets my vote over both.