Let's talk P4P - Page 2

jyuza · 12-09-2012, 06:17 AM

Ward is surprisingly high on many lists. Interesting.

megavolt · 12-09-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jyuza

Ward is surprisingly high on many lists. Interesting.

interesting ie bullshit

beat froch dec 2011- gets put in P4P at #7

slowly rising up the ranks while not fighting for the majority of 2012

in his only fight of the year he beats a drained Dawson- magically at #2

ripcity · 12-09-2012, 06:21 AM

1. Mayweather
2. Donire
3. Ward
4. Marquez
5. Martinez
6. Bradley

Collie · 12-09-2012, 07:16 AM

1. Marquez
2. Mayweather
3. Ward
4. Donaire
5. Pacquaio
6. Martinez
7. Wladamir
8. Bradley
9. Mares
10. Broner

Its very hard to make a list, so many ways they are interchangable. Knee-jerk reaction maybe, but I think Marquez deserves the top spot because he was top 5-6 before the fight and beat Pacquaio who I ranked joint #1. Mayweather hasn't done enough for me in the last few years to be guaranteed his top spot: Its difficult to know where to place him, he is probably the best fighter on the list but he doesn't fight enough and made heavy weather of Cotto who was subsequently beaten pretty soundly by Trout. Ward might be a little high at 3 and Martinez too low at 6. I think Broner just about scrapes in because he would start favourite against most opponents from 130-140, still a bright future ahead for him.

Collie · 12-09-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jyuza

Ward is surprisingly high on many lists. Interesting.

True, but its difficult to know who to put ahead of him: Marquez and Mayweather should be (if you are counting Mayweather), wouldn't have a problem having Martinez or Donaire ahead of him either. I do think he is being over-estimated a wee bit on some of these lists, but its close so its subjective.

oibighead · 12-09-2012, 07:22 AM

Pac is around 11-12 now

bladerunner · 12-09-2012, 07:25 AM

JMM clear number one.

Collie · 12-09-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by oibighead

Pac is around 11-12 now

Have you done a list? Where do you put Marquez?

Daruf · 12-09-2012, 07:26 AM

Floyd is too inactive so JMM Nr1 for me easily.

oibighead · 12-09-2012, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Collie

Have you done a list? Where do you put Marquez?

1 - Mayweather
2 - Ward
3 - Marquez
4 - Martinez
5 - Donaire
6 - Wladamir
7 - Gamboa
8 - Bradley
9 - Mares
10 - Nishioka
11 - Froch
12 - Pacquiao

MoJoGoodie · 12-09-2012, 07:39 AM

I dont know how Floyd is not number one...

megavolt · 12-09-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oibighead

10 - Nishioka
11 - Froch
12 - Pacquiao

Collie · 12-09-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by oibighead

1 - Mayweather
2 - Ward
3 - Marquez
4 - Martinez
5 - Donaire
6 - Wladamir
7 - Gamboa
8 - Bradley
9 - Mares
10 - Nishioka
11 - Froch
12 - Pacquiao

Isn't Nishioka retired?

Not a bad list but I'd have Marquez above Ward. I still have Pacquaio higher in my list (5-6) due to he beat Bradley (unofficially) in his 2nd last fight and was winning against Marquez UNTIL the KO.

jyuza · 12-09-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MoJoGoodie

I dont know how Floyd is not number one...

Doesn't do sh*t. Winning against Cotto don't makes you number one.

Ahurath · 12-09-2012, 07:59 AM

He is number two easy.

And how can you say that Floyd isn't active he fought Miguel cotto this year.

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jyuza Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,266 vCash: 1000	Re: Let's talk P4P Ward is surprisingly high on many lists. Interesting.
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ripcity Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." Posts: 12,035 vCash: 856	Re: Let's talk P4P 1. Mayweather 2. Donire 3. Ward 4. Marquez 5. Martinez 6. Bradley
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Collie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,352 vCash: 4833	Re: Let's talk P4P 1. Marquez 2. Mayweather 3. Ward 4. Donaire 5. Pacquaio 6. Martinez 7. Wladamir 8. Bradley 9. Mares 10. Broner Its very hard to make a list, so many ways they are interchangable. Knee-jerk reaction maybe, but I think Marquez deserves the top spot because he was top 5-6 before the fight and beat Pacquaio who I ranked joint #1. Mayweather hasn't done enough for me in the last few years to be guaranteed his top spot: Its difficult to know where to place him, he is probably the best fighter on the list but he doesn't fight enough and made heavy weather of Cotto who was subsequently beaten pretty soundly by Trout. Ward might be a little high at 3 and Martinez too low at 6. I think Broner just about scrapes in because he would start favourite against most opponents from 130-140, still a bright future ahead for him.
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12-09-2012, 07:22 AM	#21
oibighead G.O.A.T. East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,142 vCash: 75	Re: Let's talk P4P Pac is around 11-12 now
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bladerunner El Intocable East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20,312 vCash: 0	Re: Let's talk P4P JMM clear number one.
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Daruf Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,266 vCash: 704	Re: Let's talk P4P Floyd is too inactive so JMM Nr1 for me easily.
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MoJoGoodie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,050 vCash: 75	Re: Let's talk P4P I dont know how Floyd is not number one...
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Ahurath Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,178 vCash: 235	Re: Let's talk P4P He is number two easy. And how can you say that Floyd isn't active he fought Miguel cotto this year.
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