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Old 12-09-2012, 09:20 AM   #31
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Doesn't do sh*t. Winning against Cotto don't makes you number one.

How about making JMM look like a bum and remaining undefeated for his entire career.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:27 AM   #32
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How about making JMM look like a bum and remaining undefeated for his entire career.
Marquez was just stepping up at welterweight to fight Mayweather without tune ups before. Things would be different if they fought now.
And remaining undefeated is a matter of opinion. As far as I am concerned Floyd is not undefeated.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:31 AM   #33
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JMM number 1 irrefutably
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:02 AM   #34
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1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. Marquez
4. Donaire
5. W. Klitschko
6. Martinez
7. Bradley
8. Mares
9. Froch
10. Broner
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:02 AM   #35
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Hopefully you understand to keep trap shut about P4P-crap when meeting normal people.

It's absolutely childish.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:30 AM   #36
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should be #1 or #2 Mayweather hasn't fought in a long time and Ward is fighting Pavlik next after fighting a weight drained Dawson,
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:40 AM   #37
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Isn't Nishioka retired?

Not a bad list but I'd have Marquez above Ward. I still have Pacquaio higher in my list (5-6) due to he beat Bradley (unofficially) in his 2nd last fight and was winning against Marquez UNTIL the KO.
My bad, didnt relise that he retired after the donaire fight
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #38
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Pacquiao might be retiring too after that loss...
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:12 PM   #39
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floyd fought last year lol and had a prison stint but he hasnt been active? yeah if you look over the course of the last 3-4 years but come on he just fought last year lol
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:14 PM   #40
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floyd fought last year lol and had a prison stint but he hasnt been active? yeah if you look over the course of the last 3-4 years but come on he just fought last year lol
Sure, but does fighting (and struggling) a faded (if not past primed) Cotto grants you the P4P seat king ?
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:15 PM   #41
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How about making JMM look like a bum and remaining undefeated for his entire career.
I guess every person he ever beat is going to forever fork their wins over to Floyd on the list no matter how many years later? What kind of logic is that?

I guess Chris John is also the P4P king and Ward holds a win over Hopkins.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:21 PM   #42
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Sure, but does fighting (and struggling) a faded (if not past primed) Cotto grants you the P4P seat king ?
no but if memory serves well floyd was number 1 then manny came. You have to dethrone the king in my eyes. most people list before last night floyd was tied for first with manny. Manny was first or Floyd was number one. Floyd destroyed marquez doesnt matter how or when he beat marquez with ease. I could see people justifying JMM number 1 if he hadnt lost to floyd already but thats not the case. Beating cotto doesnt i agree with you but dont try to throw in struggling in there. People bitch floyd just out boxes everyone its boring, now that he stood toe to toe, well floyd looked bad doing it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:12 PM   #43
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1.Mayweather
2.Marquez
3.Martinez
4.Ward
exactly mine at the moment
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:19 PM   #44
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no but if memory serves well floyd was number 1 then manny came. You have to dethrone the king in my eyes. most people list before last night floyd was tied for first with manny. Manny was first or Floyd was number one. Floyd destroyed marquez doesnt matter how or when he beat marquez with ease. I could see people justifying JMM number 1 if he hadnt lost to floyd already but thats not the case. Beating cotto doesnt i agree with you but dont try to throw in struggling in there. People bitch floyd just out boxes everyone its boring, now that he stood toe to toe, well floyd looked bad doing it.
Fair enough. Do you have Chris John P4P number at Marquez's place then ?
And for the record I have no problem with people having Floyd at number one.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:22 PM   #45
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1.Mayweather
2.Marquez
3.Martinez
4.Ward
We don't agree on much but we agree on this. JMM is greater p4p than Ward irrefutably
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