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Old 12-09-2012, 10:14 AM   #16
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Default Re: So after last night, should Mayweather deserve credit now by beating Marquez...

He always got credit.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:15 AM   #17
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It's funny how Pacquiao-Marquez is a great match-up, but Mayweather-Marquez is a joke after the man was retired for almost 2 years. Somehow that would make the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight a joke too. No logic whatsoever.
Its a double standard point blank. Yes mayweather fail to make weight but so what? he was still under 147 pounds and plus he only had 4 pound weight advantage like pac did last night vs marquez. And you hit the nail right on the head about mayweather was coming off a big big layoff.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:17 AM   #18
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Styles.Make.Fights.

Marquez is at his best when playing the role of the counterpuncher, but Floyd is even better at it. These two guys could fight a million times and I think Floyd gets the "W". Floyd is too fast and defensively superior.

Even though he pulled a bitch move at the scales, I think you get the same result today.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:18 AM   #19
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Manny vs a marquez adjusted to the weight twice (w/ possible steroids) = Credit

May vs a marquez blown up and floyd still coming in over weight = BITCH PLEASE!

How many times must we talk about this?

And I'm black and a fan of may btw, but that fight was a cherrypick
How is fighting the guy many people just thought beat Pacquiao a cherry pick, after two years off aswell

Juan was a valid fight for PAC 2 more times but a cherry pick for Floyd

Floyd missed weight which was bad,that's it, it didn't effect the actual outcome
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:19 AM   #20
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Manny vs a marquez adjusted to the weight twice (w/ possible steroids) = Credit

May vs a marquez blown up and floyd still coming in over weight = BITCH PLEASE!

How many times must we talk about this?

And I'm black and a fan of may btw, but that fight was a cherrypick
How you adjust to a weight that you barely fought in? adjust to the weight is just a crock of sh4t garbage excuse to discredit. Its like saying cotto adjust to a bs catchweight vs pac in which means what bodyshot99, pac win over cotto wasnt a good win either?
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:26 AM   #21
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as good as jmm looked last night, i doubt he wins against mayweather at any weight. yeah, i think mayweather should be given credit for dominating marquez when no one has. not pac, not john nor norwood.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:30 AM   #22
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Solid win but nothing special, it really wasnt ideal for Marquez at the time.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:35 AM   #23
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After this win marquez won't be calling out mayweather. That should tell you all you need to know.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:36 AM   #24
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Manny vs a marquez adjusted to the weight twice (w/ possible steroids) = Credit

May vs a marquez blown up and floyd still coming in over weight = BITCH PLEASE!

How many times must we talk about this?

And I'm black and a fan of may btw, but that fight was a cherrypick
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:39 AM   #25
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Not the same..
Marquez didn't have his power pellets.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #26
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I think he deserves credit. It was such a one sided wipeout that ppl don't give him any cuz he made it look so easy
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:31 AM   #27
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Not the same..
Marquez didn't have his power pellets.
Really? then there should be a mayweather vs marquez rematch?
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:33 AM   #28
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Solid win but nothing special, it really wasnt ideal for Marquez at the time.
You think marquez will beat mayweather this time in a rematch? Or same result? If same result then his won over marquez is far more then just a solid win.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:06 PM   #29
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He deserves credit, but people see the fight for what it was. You simply can't sit there and pretend it was the same Marquez as the one we just saw and showed up for fight 3.

And let's dispel the myth size had nothing to do with it, shall we? Anytime JMM got inside, May muscled him out effortlessly. Not sure Marquez beats him, style and skill are a big hurtle, but it's safe to say he does better, assuming JMM trains for speed and not power.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:09 PM   #30
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He deserves credit, but people see the fight for what it was. You simply can't sit there and pretend it was the same Marquez as the one we just saw and showed up for fight 3.

And let's dispel the myth size had nothing to do with it, shall we? Anytime JMM got inside, May muscled him out effortlessly.
May did no such thing. Floyd was to quick and to slick for marquez. Had **** all to do with with muscling marquez out.

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