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Old 12-09-2012, 01:23 PM   #46
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Ward
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Eh, Pacquiao runs into a huge shot in a close fight with the guy you rank no.2 and suddenly hes not even top 10 anymore.

You've Bradley there who Pacquiao should have a w over.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #47
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We don't agree on much but we agree on this. JMM is greater p4p than Ward irrefutably
Hell yeah he is.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:48 PM   #48
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:04 PM   #49
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Wladimir Klitschko tops the list.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #50
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1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Ward
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #51
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Wladimir Klitschko tops the list.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:13 PM   #52
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1. Marquez
2. Mayweather
3. Ward
4. Donaire
5. Pacquaio
6. Martinez
7. Wladamir
8. Bradley
9. Mares
10. Broner


Its very hard to make a list, so many ways they are interchangable. Knee-jerk reaction maybe, but I think Marquez deserves the top spot because he was top 5-6 before the fight and beat Pacquaio who I ranked joint #1. Mayweather hasn't done enough for me in the last few years to be guaranteed his top spot: Its difficult to know where to place him, he is probably the best fighter on the list but he doesn't fight enough and made heavy weather of Cotto who was subsequently beaten pretty soundly by Trout. Ward might be a little high at 3 and Martinez too low at 6. I think Broner just about scrapes in because he would start favourite against most opponents from 130-140, still a bright future ahead for him.
LOL...

Didn't Mayweather completely shutout the guy you have as #1 on your P4P list?
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:24 PM   #53
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Marquez was just stepping up at welterweight to fight Mayweather without tune ups before. Things would be different if they fought now.
Really?

So you think Marquez beats Mayweather? If so, I'd love to hear you explain why...
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:29 PM   #54
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Still in shock after watching the fight but I knew after seeing that monster right in the third round that the fight would be pretty much over when Marquez would unleash it again. And it did. Didn't expect that kind of KO though.

Now, where does that rank Marquez in the P4P list ?

Number one for me.

Can't put Marquez above Mayweather, Martinez, or Vitali Klitschko. He is 4 or 5.

Also, Pacquiao is out of the top 10 with losses to Bradley and a brutal KO loss to Marquez.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:30 PM   #55
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Really?

So you think Marquez beats Mayweather? If so, I'd love to hear you explain why...
Didn't say he would, just that the fight wouldn't be one sided.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:32 PM   #56
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Chris John, P4P king.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:34 PM   #57
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LOL...

Didn't Mayweather completely shutout the guy you have as #1 on your P4P list?
Marquez win over Pacquaio is greater than anything Mayweather has done in recent years.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:35 PM   #58
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Didn't say he would, just that the fight wouldn't be one sided.
LOL....

Really?

Can you tell us why?
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:37 PM   #59
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Marquez win over Pacquaio is greater than anything Mayweather has done in recent years.
Agreed, except for the FACT that Mayweather has the shutout W over Marquez. Or is it that Pactards can't remember that far back?
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:42 PM   #60
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Agreed, except for the FACT that Mayweather has the shutout W over Marquez. Or is it that Pactards can't remember that far back?
The problem is how far back do you go in these lists?

And I think it is pretty obvious the Marquez of the Pacquaio fight last night was a better version than the out-of-shape Marquez jumping up the weight-classes vs Mayweather. Not saying he would beat ayweather now, but styles make fights.

Its all opinion of course, I can see why people might have either Mayweather or Marquez number 1.
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