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Old 12-09-2012, 03:54 PM   #61
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Marquez win over Pacquaio is greater than anything Mayweather has done in recent years.
No it isn't

Mayweather in the last 3 years (which I would say is pretty recent history) Hatton, JMM, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto which is pretty much the list of who's who of the 140-147 weight classes

Marquez is great against Manny....but does he beat the top 147 guys?
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:37 PM   #62
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LOL....

Really?

Can you tell us why?
Yes I can. But I won't bother.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:49 PM   #63
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Amir Khan
Mayweather
Martinez
Ward
Marquez
Manny
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #64
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Amir Khan
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:18 PM   #65
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The problem is how far back do you go in these lists?

And I think it is pretty obvious the Marquez of the Pacquaio fight last night was a better version than the out-of-shape Marquez jumping up the weight-classes vs Mayweather. Not saying he would beat ayweather now, but styles make fights.

Its all opinion of course, I can see why people might have either Mayweather or Marquez number 1.
LOL...

The Marquez that Pacquiao faced last night is also 3 years OLDER than the Marquez that Mayweather faced.

You Pactards need to stop. There is absolutely NO LOGICAL JUSTIFICATION for ranking JMM ahead of Mayweather P4P.

If Marquez is truly the new P4P champ, lets see if he calls out Floyd...
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:20 PM   #66
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Yes I can. But I won't bother.
I know.

Pactards don't like making sound reasoned arguments...
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:28 PM   #67
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1. Floyd Mayweather JR
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Andre Ward
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Manny Pacquaio
6. Wlad Klitschko
7. Nonito Donaire
8. Timothy Bradley
9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
10. Abner Mares
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:29 PM   #68
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I know.

Pactards don't like making sound reasoned arguments...
What the **** are you talking about ?? I am glad that marquez won the way he did, How does that make me a pactard ?
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:31 PM   #69
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1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. Martinez
4. Marquez
5. WK
6. Donaire
7. Bradley
8. Pac
9. Mares
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:36 PM   #70
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1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Martinez
5. Donaire
6. Pacquiao
7. Klitschko
8. Bradley
9. Mares
10. Froch
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:22 PM   #71
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Ward is way too high on these lists
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:52 PM   #72
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Eh, Pacquiao runs into a huge shot in a close fight with the guy you rank no.2 and suddenly hes not even top 10 anymore.

You've Bradley there who Pacquiao should have a w over.
I had Pac one spot ahead of Bradley (#4) before he got KTFO

Whoever gets ktfo tends to get taken off the list. Barrera was taken off when he was beaten by pac. Hamed was taken off post Barrera. Jones was taken off post Tarver II. Williams post Martinez II etc etc don't let the love for your hero cloud your judgement
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:42 PM   #73
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1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. Martinez
4. Marquez
5. WK
6. Donaire
7. Bradley
8. Pac
9. Mares
10. Broner
There is no way in hell that Pac is below Bradley.

The Pac of last night would've annihilated Bradley.

Marquez should be ranked above Ward and below Martinez IMO. He's really cemented his place as a great.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:09 AM   #74
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Ward is way too high on these lists
Definitely. I didn't think his win over a weight drained Dawson would rocket him to the top 3 of most of the lists. Maybe I should reconsider my P4P standards.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:43 AM   #75
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If you don't rank Floyd then Marquez should be #1.

If you do, then he should be #2.
correct
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