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Old 12-09-2012, 09:03 PM   #61
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Here, I'll make it REAL simple for you, since you're clearly a bit dim.

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If your hand's in the position Manny's is in, you are not going to see a wide right hand coming over the top like that.

"It's the punches you don't see coming that do the damage".

The speed of the punch is irrelevant.
Thing is, he took an identical punch in the last fight and took it well. JMM has never come close to hurting pac like that. There could be a number of reasons, my theory is Pac's chin has degraded through all the ring wars he's had. Either that or maybe JMM focus on strength this time and chaneling his power into one big blow did the trick.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:03 PM   #62
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You're a piece of shit. Marquez volunteered for testing up until the fight and Pacquiao's team fell silent. Their fault.
im a piece of shite? LOL im not the 1 sticking shite in me. how can u do random testing for a week, u dumb shite? LOL he was never gonna test. even if they did test it wouldnt be vada like type testing. they will usada which heredia can fool LOL

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Old 12-09-2012, 09:04 PM   #63
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That's interesting. Because I spent time here before pointing out how in the 3rd fight, JMM looked slower than previous fights and didn't really rock Pacquiao with anything big. Only to be told that 'Steroids dont increase your strenght and speed, they only help you to train longer and recover quicker!'

So which is it?

Can't work both ways.
quit putting words in my mouth, I never said anything about speed. You got into so many arguments in this thread you're getting them mixed up.

All I'm trying to say that is JMM is a GREAT counter puncher. One of the BEST ever. Add new found power to that and BOOM! Good night Manny. You know who had GREAT timing and new found power at the end of his career but in a different sport? Barry Bonds.

No shit steroids makes you recover quicker, that's why when you train hard you can "magically" gain new strength a lot faster which can FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING seem like he gained it overnight.
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Thing is, he took an identical punch in the last fight and took it well. JMM has never come close to hurting pac like that. There could be a number of reasons, my theory is Pac's chin has degraded through all the ring wars he's had. Either that or maybe JMM focus on strength this time and chaneling his power into one big blow did the trick.
Yep, it's called strenght training. JMM has never focused on it before. New fight, new tactics. He said he was training for a knockout and no one believed him.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:05 PM   #65
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That's interesting. Because I spent time here before pointing out how in the 3rd fight, JMM looked slower than previous fights and didn't really rock Pacquiao with anything big. Only to be told that 'Steroids dont increase your strenght and speed, they only help you to train longer and recover quicker!'

So which is it?

Can't work both ways.
Actually that is how it works. The scientific explanation and the dumbed down laymans term are the same damn thing. Enhanced protein synthesis and cortisol blocking enables you to "train harder and recover quicker".....same shit, different way of saying it. End result, with intense training and dedication (PEDs don't do the work) is bigger/faster/stronger beyond your natural limits.
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quit putting words in my mouth, I never said anything about speed. You got into so many arguments in this thread you're getting them mixed up.

All I'm trying to say that is JMM is a GREAT counter puncher. One of the BEST ever. Add new found power to that and BOOM! Good night Manny. You know who had GREAT timing but in a different sport? Barry Bonds.

No shit steroids makes you recover quicker, that's why when you train hard you can "magically" gain new strength a lot faster which can FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING seem like he gained it overnight.

I agree. Great timing + Strenght training = Lights out.
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Is this english?

Basically what you're saying there is you have absolutely no answer for that I just posted. Editing a quote doesn't prove your 'point' I'm afraid.

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maybe hes found the fountain of youth. hes ped cheat. heredia is his supplier. good bye, peep squeek
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:07 PM   #68
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Is this english?

Basically what you're saying there is you have absolutely no answer for that I just posted. Editing a quote doesn't prove your 'point' I'm afraid.

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He's a Pactard. They're all ****ed up. It's like Marquez KO'd all 2.3 million of them at the same time.
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how can u do random testing for a week, u dumb shite? LOL he was never gonna test
plus there are ways to cycle it to make it untraceable. Come on now, anyone who is a regular here over the years should know this by now. This was brought up a million times before backed up with facts when the accusations were flipped against Manny.

I'm not gonna get into this shit again. A 1700 page thread bickering back and forth where points do not get across because people are too stubborn to look at other points of views. It's pointless.

Smokin Joe. You win. (cough*not really*ahem) Have a good night.
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maybe hes found the fountain of youth. hes ped cheat. heredia is his supplier. good bye, peep squeek




But but but..he's a ped cheat!







Massive butthurt.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #71
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Let heredia nd conte talk about this shit, not ESB hall of Fame Roidcheckers.
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your hero is a cheat. u must be so proud LOL
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But but but..he's a ped cheat!









Massive butthurt.
u have no shame that hes a ped cheat. u r a sinner who has no shame. your mother must be so proud LOL
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plus there are ways to cycle it to make it untraceable. Come on now, anyone who is a regular here over the years should know this by now. This was brought up a million times before backed up with facts when the accusations were flipped against Manny.

I'm not gonna get into this shit again. A 1700 page thread bickering back and forth where points do not get across because people are too stubborn to look at other points of views. It's pointless.

Smokin Joe. You win. (cough*not really*ahem) Have a good night.
hes got heredia to mask the peds for him.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:29 PM   #75
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bulking up is a natural thing to do. Even a small kid could do that shit.

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