Duran vs Napoles

PhillyPhan69 · 12-06-2012, 02:45 PM

I got this idea from another thread (Duran/Hagler & Napoles/Monzon), and don't know if we have done it before...and frankly i was to lazy to search and see?

Who wins between these two guys @

LW, WW & MW? how/why???

I didn't bother to do a poll, because 80% of people vote but don't explain, discuss or debate....so who ya got?

red cobra · 12-06-2012, 07:15 PM

Napoles would have been too quick and clever for Duran...and would have made him pay with hurtfull shots. No unnecessary standing and trading like leonard did in Montreal either. He would have outclassed Duran like Benitez did, only, like I said, with more hurt in his punches. Napoles was DeJesus "squared".

PowerPuncher · 12-06-2012, 07:46 PM

I'd go with Duran's crisper sharper game (IMO)

laxpdx · 12-07-2012, 12:54 AM

Even match. Unless Duran can inflict a cut, this one could easily go either way, point-wise. One bout couldn't possibly determine whose better. A trilogy is fitting for this pairing at least.

Stevie G · 12-08-2012, 09:26 AM

Napoles was the better welterweight,per se,but I can see the 'Montreal' Duran beating Napoles on points. Mantequilla would win any rematches though.

red cobra · 12-08-2012, 04:26 PM

Stevie, I think Napoles would have beaten the Montreal Duran narrowly on points. I don't believe that he would have chosen the wrong syle and approach to fight that version of Duran like Leonard did. Just my opinion. I think Duran would not have been as consumed with hatred as much for Mantequilla as he was for SRL, and would have had more respect for him.

Beer · 12-09-2012, 12:01 PM

You have really been overrating the hell out of Napoles, red.

PhillyPhan69 · 12-09-2012, 02:37 PM

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Perhaps I need to watch more Napoles, red.

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red cobra · 12-09-2012, 03:01 PM

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Yeah Philly,...he just dosen't know that much about Mantequilla.

LittleRed · 12-09-2012, 03:10 PM

I think the most intriguing fight here is around '74. A just peaking Duran against a very slightly faded Napoles. Duran is moving up, but Napoles is not a huge welter. Great to see if Napoles brilliant punch picking will keep Duran off. I think it will, and he'll take a close, hard decision.

Of course against Montreal Duran, Napoles is exposed as the Cuban Henry Cooper.

lora · 12-09-2012, 04:37 PM

I don't think Napoles is Dejesus squared per se, there's six and half a dozen between them in most respects as boxer-punchers, but the fact that Napoles was a fair bit bigger and thus a more dangerous opponent physically mean it could turn out that way in reality, with the obvious expection that Duran did handle the weight jump when given time.

However a jump straight up to 147 in the early 70s without getting used to things there could well result in that sort of scenario and defeat for Duran.

red cobra · 12-09-2012, 04:57 PM

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I think the most intriguing fight here is around '74. A just peaking Duran against a very slightly faded Napoles. Duran is moving up, but Napoles is not a huge welter. Great to see if Napoles brilliant punch picking will keep Duran off. I think it will, and he'll take a close, hard decision.

Of course against Montreal Duran, Napoles is exposed as the Cuban Henry Cooper.

He starts bleeding in his dressing room before his ring entrance.

Beer · 12-10-2012, 02:42 AM

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Yeah, of course, because Duran was a fucking bum.

TheSouthpaw · 12-10-2012, 02:49 AM

Great thread Philly!!..its a tough one but Im thinking in a 15 rounder, Duran either gets him outa there in the later rounds or wins the decision.

PhillyPhan69 · 12-10-2012, 03:15 AM

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Yeah, of course, because Duran was a fucking bum.

I don't believe that I have ever implied that one before either in this thread or any other! Actually I am a big respecter (Sorry only a Phan of Philly Phighters) of Duran....I do think Napoles would beat Duran by a narrow margin, but on the flip side I rank Duran as greater.

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PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,712 vCash: 1000	Duran vs Napoles I got this idea from another thread (Duran/Hagler & Napoles/Monzon), and don't know if we have done it before...and frankly i was to lazy to search and see? Who wins between these two guys @ LW, WW & MW? how/why??? I didn't bother to do a poll, because 80% of people vote but don't explain, discuss or debate....so who ya got?
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red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,218 vCash: 1000	Re: Duran vs Napoles Napoles would have been too quick and clever for Duran...and would have made him pay with hurtfull shots. No unnecessary standing and trading like leonard did in Montreal either. He would have outclassed Duran like Benitez did, only, like I said, with more hurt in his punches. Napoles was DeJesus "squared".
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PowerPuncher ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 30,752 vCash: 1000	Re: Duran vs Napoles I'd go with Duran's crisper sharper game (IMO)
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laxpdx Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,386 vCash: 1000	Re: Duran vs Napoles Even match. Unless Duran can inflict a cut, this one could easily go either way, point-wise. One bout couldn't possibly determine whose better. A trilogy is fitting for this pairing at least.
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12-08-2012, 09:26 AM	#5
Stevie G Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London,England Posts: 10,646 vCash: 1000	Re: Duran vs Napoles Napoles was the better welterweight,per se,but I can see the 'Montreal' Duran beating Napoles on points. Mantequilla would win any rematches though.
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12-08-2012, 04:26 PM	#6
red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,218 vCash: 1000	Re: Duran vs Napoles Stevie, I think Napoles would have beaten the Montreal Duran narrowly on points. I don't believe that he would have chosen the wrong syle and approach to fight that version of Duran like Leonard did. Just my opinion. I think Duran would not have been as consumed with hatred as much for Mantequilla as he was for SRL, and would have had more respect for him.
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Beer Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 103 vCash: 500	Re: Duran vs Napoles You have really been overrating the hell out of Napoles, red.
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12-09-2012, 03:10 PM	#10
LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,616 vCash: 475	Re: Duran vs Napoles I think the most intriguing fight here is around '74. A just peaking Duran against a very slightly faded Napoles. Duran is moving up, but Napoles is not a huge welter. Great to see if Napoles brilliant punch picking will keep Duran off. I think it will, and he'll take a close, hard decision. Of course against Montreal Duran, Napoles is exposed as the Cuban Henry Cooper.
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12-09-2012, 04:37 PM	#11
lora Fighting Zapata East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,455 vCash: 500	Re: Duran vs Napoles I don't think Napoles is Dejesus squared per se, there's six and half a dozen between them in most respects as boxer-punchers, but the fact that Napoles was a fair bit bigger and thus a more dangerous opponent physically mean it could turn out that way in reality, with the obvious expection that Duran did handle the weight jump when given time. However a jump straight up to 147 in the early 70s without getting used to things there could well result in that sort of scenario and defeat for Duran.
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12-10-2012, 02:49 AM	#14
TheSouthpaw Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,893 vCash: 500	Re: Duran vs Napoles Great thread Philly!!..its a tough one but Im thinking in a 15 rounder, Duran either gets him outa there in the later rounds or wins the decision.
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