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Old 12-10-2012, 02:04 PM   #31
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This time, Marquez managed to give a definitive answer, a sixth-round knockout that left Pacquiao face down on the canvas, and raise a few dozen or so questions. The first and most obvious concerned those biceps and shoulders and forearms, all so much larger than before.
Marquez climbed into the ring looking less like a boxer and more like a bodybuilder. That in recent years he began to train with Angel Guillermo Heredia, an admitted steroids dealer who testified for the government in the Balco scandal and went by several names, fueled speculation. The difference in size and sculpture was too obvious to ignore. And this at 39.




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Old 12-10-2012, 02:04 PM   #32
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"What a fight"
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:05 PM   #33
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Leave the model minority alone guys.

For 3 years Floyds been asking to take the tests, hes been called a coward, a liar, and lost a lawsuit because of it.

Now that the shoes on the other foot you got the ****ing nytimes accusing a guy who said hed gladly take any tests available of steroids.

Laughable
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:06 PM   #34
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Leave the model minority alone guys.

For 3 years Floyds been asking to take the tests, hes been called a coward, a liar, and lost a lawsuit because of it.

Now that the shoes on the other foot you got the ****ing nytimes accusing a guy who said hed gladly take any tests available of steroids.

Laughable
This, the double standards are retarded.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:09 PM   #35
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I wonder why so few people noticed that, Pac looked the best i had seen in a very long time.
That said i also noticed quite early on that JMM had a completely different gameplan, he had no intention whatsoever trying to compete on the rounds.
Indeed, I also thought Pacquiao looked the best he has in a very long time. Though, I don't think Marquez tried any different strategy. He did his usual counter punching and couldn't compete well enough in the rounds because of Pacquiao's consistent head movement. If you notice, the only time he started to look good is when Pacquiao hurt him and got reckless, clearly that's because he had a lot of openings to counter.
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Better testing is just around the corner.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:11 PM   #37
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Marquez looked slower and more unbalanced and was getting punished like never before before the stoppage. He had a broken nose and concussion. He looked tired aswell.


Looks like what happens when you do heavy lifting sacrificing ability and stamina for power to me.
It paid off though, that power is what overwhelmed Pacquiao and won Marquez the fight.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:14 PM   #38
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Because of the people he has associated himself with.

Hasn't Roach been involved with drugs cheats ?

He trains Pac so Pac must be juicing ?
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:14 PM   #39
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he's as suscpious as Pacquiao.

Innocent until proven guilty
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:14 PM   #40
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Do people not realize how small these guys actually are? Those 'gains' are easily achieved with any sense of work ethic and nutrition.

Biceps, Shoulders and Forearms, Oh my!


'**** outta here.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:14 PM   #41
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Reminds me of the recent 30 for 30 about Bo Jackson I saw. Had he come along later he would have definitely been scrutinized or seen as suspicious. He was insanely gifted. Guy didn't even light weights and looked like a damn iron statue.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:17 PM   #42
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Indeed, I also thought Pacquiao looked the best he has in a very long time. Though, I don't think Marquez tried any different strategy. He did his usual counter punching and couldn't compete well enough in the rounds because of Pacquiao's consistent head movement. If you notice, the only time he started to look good is when Pacquiao hurt him and got reckless, clearly that's because he had a lot of openings to counter.
That 3d round knockdown had nothing to do with a counter though, it was JMM loadingup and blasting him to the ground.

He never did that in the previous 3 fights.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:21 PM   #43
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That 3d round knockdown had nothing to do with a counter though, it was JMM loadingup and blasting him to the ground.

He never did that in the previous 3 fights.
He didn't want to give the judges a shot at robbing him again. That was the basis of his entire approach to this fight.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:30 PM   #44
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He didn't want to give the judges a shot at robbing him again. That was the basis of his entire approach to this fight.
And the basis of his entire approach to his training camp.
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steroids make champions
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